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Old Jan 7, 2008, 8:15 PM   #11
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Unless I'm missing something, the HD700 and HD1000 shoot AVC MP4 video, which is basically AVCHD, which is why a lot of people on this board have issues with playback and editing TODAY with the SANYOs. The only real difference is those other cams will probably be shooting at even higher bit rates meaning the issues will be the same, but magnified.

Also, those other cams are definately bigger than the HD1000. The problem with making the HD1000 any smaller, or any of the other cams discussed, is that the lens would have to be compromised (made smaller), and that simply kills image quality. Cheap, small lens = cheap looking video no matter what codec or media is used.
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Old Jan 7, 2008, 8:22 PM   #12
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Actually the Xacti doesn't use the AVCHD spec- it uses another Mpeg 4 (older) wrapper and is x.264 encoded not H.264 (there is a difference)......the files from the Xacti are 100% editable on a Mac and from what I've read the same is true on the PC side......since this is not AVCHD your NLE will treat the files as standard Mpeg-4 (pre H.264) and any video editing software that can handle Mpeg-4 should have NO problem with Xacti footage.
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Old Jan 8, 2008, 1:07 PM   #13
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Actually the Xacti doesn't use the AVCHD spec- it uses another Mpeg 4 (older) wrapper and is x.264 encoded not H.264 (there is a difference)......the files from the Xacti are 100% editable on a Mac and from what I've read the same is true on the PC side......since this is not AVCHD your NLE will treat the files as standard Mpeg-4 (pre H.264) and any video editing software that can handle Mpeg-4 should have NO problem with Xacti footage.
Yeah, I know they're a bit different, but basically the same thing. And as far as I can tell, the HD1000 specs say "MPEG4 AVC/H.264", so not sure what you mean about not being H.264. Also, around these parts, seems to me, a lot of mac folks have been having problems with the 1080i files created by the HD1000. But, that said, point taken.
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Old Jan 8, 2008, 1:13 PM   #14
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It's definitely not H.264, it's x.264 and the revised avc-decoder fixes the issue with the 1080i files (there were never issues with the 720p stuff).....

...here's the new codec that resolves 1080i problems on a Mac-
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/23875/avc1decoder

It replaces the lacking avc decoder in Quicktime!!!!
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Old Jan 8, 2008, 1:43 PM   #15
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It's definitely not H.264, it's x.264 and the revised avc-decoder fixes the issue with the 1080i files (there were never issues with the 720p stuff).....

...here's the new codec that resolves 1080i problems on a Mac-
http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/23875/avc1decoder

It replaces the lacking avc decoder in Quicktime!!!!
Just curious if it's not H.264, why do all of Sanyo's specs say it is?
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Yeah my box does say it's H.264 as well and it probably IS- but, it's not in the flavor of AVCHD, something in the embedded code doesn't match the specs for AVCHD and I think it's great that it isn't as we can edit the footage now instead of waiting for AVCHD complaint editing NLE's.

So I stand corrected as it is H.264
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Old Jan 8, 2008, 8:29 PM   #17
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SteveNunez, which of the following Mac programs are able to edit the MP4 files: iMovie 08, iMovie HD, FCE 3.5HD or FCE 4?
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Well I've used FCE4HD and FCP 6.02 and both edit natively. I believe iMovie06 & 08 can edit them as well.
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Thanks, the confusion I guess is over whether this is AVCHD or H.264 vs some other flavour. If iMovie HD and 08 can edit without going to FCE 4 then that's a real bonus to Mac users.
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Tell you what- let me try right now- I'll report back in 4 minutes.
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