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Old Apr 22, 2008, 2:15 PM   #11
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The HD1000 also has a 4gb max file size
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HD-HQ: 1hr 22min
Oh, I see what you're saying. It's probablya lower bitrate. The HD1000 does standard resolution modes however they're in 4:3.



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Old Apr 22, 2008, 2:26 PM   #12
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The HD700 HD-HQ mode is 1280x720 video. Admittedly a lower quality than HD-SHQ, but a compromize one has to make due to the SDHC card filesystem limit of 4Gig a file.

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I still cannot decide in which one to get? Which would be better for someone who wont get another digital camera for the next 5 or so years?
Thanks for all your help so far
Well, either work very nicely for photo's. Let me ask you some questions.

1. Do you have a high definition TV?

2. Do you shoot video often?

3. What are you getting the camera for?


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1. Yes
2. Probably if i get one of these
3. For taking photos or videos when I'm just walking around, etc

I'm kind of swinging towards the hd 1000's way, since I have to import it and the cost of a hd700+16bg class 6 SDHC+ Shipping is about $45 less than a hd1000 with shipping.
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Old Apr 22, 2008, 9:33 PM   #14
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Well, as I have an HD1000 I guess you could say I'm biased toward it over the HD700 but withfair reason as I chose the HD1000 for it's feature set. For one, I really want the full HD mode and I have done a comparison of the HD1000's 1920x1080 mode and it *is* of higher quality than the 720 modes. The 720 60p mode comes in wonderfully handy when filming sports, swimming, your dog running around, or any other scene that concentrates on quick motion and I do use it in those circumstances and it still looks amazing. But for vacation videos, which is my primary use, I love the 1080 mode. I have seen some video from the HD700 and was surprised by it's quality which seemed noticeably less than what I have shot in 720 with my HD1000. The video I've shot in 720 looked better than each HD700 video that I've seen online; though to be fair I haven't seen allthat many. Anyhow, best of luck with whatever choice you make. For $45 difference though you might as well go for the top of the line model.



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Old Apr 22, 2008, 9:41 PM   #15
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The resolution of the HD700 is significantly less than the HD1000, even when they are both set to 1280x720. The HD700 is barely able to be called an HD recorder, and nowhere near as good as my Canon HV-20s. However, I need a pocket recorder which has better quality than my CG65 and which records in HD for more than 1 hour at a time. The 80 minute tapes on my HV-20s are barely enough, and they run out far too frequently.

The limitation on recording time is due to the FAT32 file system's 4Gig max file size on SDHC cards. I just wish that Sanyo would fix this problem now that the 16Gig cards are available, but still have to be used in 4 (or more) segments.

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I had the HD700 for a week, but returned it to get the HD1000. I was so unsatisfied with its low light footage. So I rather payed the difference and now I'm realy satisfied.

If this will be your only video camera, I would go for the HD1000.
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Well, as I have an HD1000 I guess you could say I'm biased toward it over the HD700 but withfair reason as I chose the HD1000 for it's feature set. For one, I really want the full HD mode and I have done a comparison of the HD1000's 1920x1080 mode and it *is* of higher quality than the 720 modes. The 720 60p mode comes in wonderfully handy when filming sports, swimming, your dog running around, or any other scene that concentrates on quick motion and I do use it in those circumstances and it still looks amazing. But for vacation videos, which is my primary use, I love the 1080 mode. I have seen some video from the HD700 and was surprised by it's quality which seemed noticeably less than what I have shot in 720 with my HD1000. The video I've shot in 720 looked better than each HD700 video that I've seen online; though to be fair I haven't seen allthat many. Anyhow, best of luck with whatever choice you make. For $45 difference though you might as well go for the top of the line model.



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The price difference in my country is alot more than $50 infact its $300 (£150), thats why I went with the hd700.

I have to say if projecktaces intends to keep the camera for 5 years I think the hd1000 would be a better bet. As others have said the low light performance of the hd700 is not great.
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I have placed a resolution test chart taken with my HD700 into the appropriate discussion thread
http://forums.steves-digicams.com/fo...mp;forum_id=27

Urmel put a chart from the HD1000 into that thread.

The resolution of the HD700, as I indicated in my post above, is very poor by comparison with the HD1000, even allowing for the lower resolution.

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I'm also deciding between the HD1000 and HD700 but leaning towards the 1000 for a variety of reasons. A few quick questions though:

I know that there are issues with 1080i and the Mac (iMovie 08) and that you must shoot in 720p. Does anyone know if it works fine with 60fps or do you have to shoot at 30fps to use on in iMovie?

Second question: why is the still resolution only 4mp on the 1000 when it's 7mp on the 700? Is the 7mp number interpolated?

Finally, does image stabilization allow for the full wide angle range on the 1000? I guess it's not available on the 700.

Thanks...this has been extremely helpful to me!

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As I get through testing my new HD1000 I am struck by the quality of the video. Actually it is more correct to say that I am struck by how marginal the HD700 really is in its claim to be an HD camera.

I noticed that in its 640x480 mode the HD1000 puts out clearly visible pixels, and the appearance of the video at 640x480 is primarily limited by pixellation. So I applied the program "Video Enhancer" (which is an SMP VirtualDub implementation, inter alia) and resized the video up to 1280x960.
http://www.thedeemon.com/VideoEnhancer/

Pixellation was gone in the resized video, and heck, I really couldn't see any difference between the video I shot at 640x480 on the HD1000 and then "Video Enhanced" up in resolution, with that from the HD700. On the other hand, the images from the HD1000 were more crisp and clear, especially at 1920x1080, but even at 1280x720. In both modes I could see precise pixellation of the test chart digits. Very precise indeed!

IMO use "soft" image mode on the HD1000, as "normal introduces noticeable sharpening. It will probably also enhance noise. "Soft" appears to be closer to the output from the CMOS sensor.

ps: Warning - Video Enhancer is slow - on a Core 2 Duo it is only about 1/10 real time...

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