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Old Sep 13, 2008, 12:17 AM   #11
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That's why I said HD700 and NOT HD1000/1010 (I own both). For the record, turning off EIS on the HD1000/1010 doesn't widen anything either. My comments were limited to the HD700, where 640x480 has a wider field of view than the widescreen modes (HORIZONTALLY WIDER) and where turning off EIS also widens the view.
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Old Sep 15, 2008, 9:47 PM   #12
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Well finally here is the corrected wide angle testing. I have compressed the hell out of the video so don't take much notice of the quality it is mainly for you to see the wide angle field of view.

http://www.vimeo.com/1741337
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Old Sep 15, 2008, 10:01 PM   #13
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Just for the record, I just testing my HD700 vs. my HD1000 on field of view. the 640x480 EIS Off mode on the HD700 is significantly wider than any video mode possible on the HD1000 (without adapter lenses of course). Hard to say how much wider, but if I had to guess, I'd say 10-20% wider. This fact and the smaller form factor cause me to use my 700 way more often than my 1000, even though the low light capability on the 1000 is way better.
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 2:10 AM   #14
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Well finally here is the corrected wide angle testing. I have compressed the heck out of the video so don't take much notice of the quality it is mainly for you to see the wide angle field of view.

http://www.vimeo.com/1741337
Talk about compression! That is way way way compressed! How many times can I repeat way? hehe
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 4:51 AM   #15
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Cresho it is just from 115meg down to 19meg :G
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 4:49 PM   #16
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Thanks for all the discussion here. Interesting on the 640x480 mode on the HD700. But, I guess I'm an "HD fanboy" because I would not want to miss out on the pixels for things like watching on a TV.

So, net-conclusion here is that when both are in "HD mode" the HD1000 has roughly the same field of view as the HD700. Correct?

For comparison sake, I put together this video. It compares the HD700, the Canon TX1 and the Panasonic Lumix TZ5 for field of view. All were in "high def" 1280x720 mode. Reading the lens specs themselves I would have expected (maybe wrongly so?) that the HD700 would be a bit wider than the TX1, but I guess it would be if I had used "standard def" mode.

The TZ5 blows both away, but it is simply unusable for me as a video cam because the sound recording is awful.

http://vimeo.com/1743529
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 6:16 PM   #17
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Thanks for all the discussion here. Interesting on the 640x480 mode on the HD700. But, I guess I'm an "HD fanboy" because I would not want to miss out on the pixels for things like watching on a TV.

So, net-conclusion here is that when both are in "HD mode" the HD1000 has roughly the same field of view as the HD700. Correct?

For comparison sake, I put together this video. It compares the HD700, the Canon TX1 and the Panasonic Lumix TZ5 for field of view. All were in "high def" 1280x720 mode. Reading the lens specs themselves I would have expected (maybe wrongly so?) that the HD700 would be a bit wider than the TX1, but I guess it would be if I had used "standard def" mode.

The TZ5 blows both away, but it is simply unusable for me as a video cam because the sound recording is awful.

http://vimeo.com/1743529
THis is very good information! thanks for sharing it with us. I just wished you had a hd1000 for comparison sake as well!
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 6:22 PM   #18
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If anyone wants to send me their HD1000, I'll gladly go ahead and test it out and edit the video. It just might take a while to send it back...

Joking aside, glad you found the information useful.


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Old Sep 16, 2008, 6:49 PM   #19
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Was EIS on or off for the HD700 crop? It makes a difference (even in HD mode).
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Old Sep 16, 2008, 7:05 PM   #20
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I have a stupid question guys! What is EIS? how do I enable or disable?
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