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Old Jan 21, 2009, 9:10 AM   #11
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Its the constant upgrades that I have a problem with.... why dont they wait a while, get things sortedand release fewer models, there are so many different models at the moment its not funny. They are all very similar but have tiny improvements and newer features. The HD700 was a mess by all accounts, the HD800 not much better from what I read. The CG6, the CG65 (which I had), the HD1, HD1A, HD2.... and all the others in between.... what a product portfolio sanyo have!!!

I remember the C1,I had it, loved it. The C4 came out after a while, I didnt bite, the C5 was a huge improvement and I bought it. Then the CG6/CG65 appeared, I bought again and was happy enough but then the HD1 came out, I was tempted but resisted lucky enough.... HD1A..... em no thanks..... HD2.... hhmmmm that was quick.... HD1000..... now that has to be it!!! oops HD1010..... Damn you Sanyo!!!! HD2000.... no comment!

When you buythe latestsanyo, it wont be the latest for very long!!! I really think this is unfair, I like my HD1000 but when I saw the HD1010 come out that fixed the focus hunting I was pi**ed off big time. This would have been noticed in quality checking and testingno doubt but they released itanyway and then released a new model a few weeks later.... what a rip off!!!!! Come on, whats that about..... answer:they dont care about their customers!

I wonder when the HD2010 will be out.....
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Old Jan 21, 2009, 11:24 AM   #12
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Well to be honest we cant complain too much to sanyo because at least they give us what we wanted, nearly!

Who elase can offer such features in a portable carry anywhere package and you cannot complain about the product cycle to be honest since the release of the hd1000/1010 its been nearly a year.

What are the options to sanyo? portable 1080/60p now with 16x optical lense in video mode and you can carry in your pocket, just.
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Old Jan 21, 2009, 11:38 AM   #13
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nearly costs money!!!!

First model in a year?????

HD1000 releasedSept 07
Hd1010 released Jun 08
Hd2000 Jan 09.....

Thats 3 inover a year

I really dont want to be Sanyo bashing as it is up to me what I buy at the end of the day, I just feel ripped off and this is the only place I can get myview across to people who may feel the same and in the hope that somebody from Sanyo might read this and actually give a cr*p what customers think and listen!

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Old Jan 22, 2009, 4:54 AM   #14
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Your not being forced to buy into this new video-camera, why do you feel ripped-off, as you say upgraed features are minimal and there is no OIS, so be happy with what you got, I've been happy with my C4 and HD2 and havent upgraded to the new full-hd series yet, but there might just be enough now to tempt me, the 8mp chip is what I've been waiting for and the new smart optical gives better reach.

So for me its a good second portable camera, for many this what they are?
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Old Jan 22, 2009, 5:47 AM   #15
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I think I explained why I feel ripped off already.... I know its my choice, I pointed that out. Anyway, its my opinion which I am entitled to as you yours. I think its important that forums like this are here so people can discuss such topics so future buyers are aware of the constant upgrades and maybe they will be better informed before they purchase.
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Old Jan 22, 2009, 8:06 AM   #16
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Turk, You reminded me why I switched from the HD700 and HD1000 to my current complement of several HF100s, a Kodak Z1012 and a Kodak (pocket) V1073.

I have been very happy with those cameras, they have taken video my Sanyo's never could, and done it without a hitch.

You know, it is not just OIS that people need - it is an OIS that really works. The Canon HF100 OIS is better than the Kodak's, for example. The Canon HF100 dual-mode focus is exemplary. Sanyo isn't even in the running on focus...

And then there is the 3-hour non-stop recording (and battery) capability of the HF100.. And its ability to operate indoors in darkened environments. Even the f1.8 of my HD1000 was several f-stops worse at resolving color, and noise floor...

I still love my Xacti C6, but I hardly ever shoot 640x480 any more. It's pointless, even for YouTube...

Still, Sanyo is so close in form factor, if only they had the technology to get focus, OIS, and low-light into that package (without dropping the 15fps of Xacti's "High Sensitivity" mode, which is excellent for YouTube).

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Old Jan 23, 2009, 1:40 AM   #17
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More pics here.

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...18&id=2661

HD2000 looks huge in the model's hand!!! When I compare the picture of HD1010 and HD2000, it is definitely taller and bigger.
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Old Jan 23, 2009, 2:10 AM   #18
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It doesn't look that big in these pictures.
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news...s.php?id=17395


Yes the stabilizer is still digital but they claim it's much better.
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Old Jan 23, 2009, 2:37 AM   #19
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The HD2000 uses the same lens as the HD1010 and yet they claim 16X zoom. They don't say optical zoom but an advertising speak "Advanced Zoom."

If they have improved the electronic image stabilization, I hope they have done more than the stabilization on my HD1010 because I tell you it does not work well at all and for me the one major thing that spoils an otherwise near perfect Video/Still camera for me.
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Here are the two spec sheets:

HD1010:
http://www.sanyo.com/news/2008/06/im...ifications.pdf

HD2000:
http://www.sanyo.com/news/2009/01/img/090121xacti.pdf

They are exactly the same size.

One interesting thing is that it looks like they are cramming more megapixels onto the same size sensor. I doubt that will make pictures look better.

The lens specs are interesting. I can tell Sanyo is listening to complaints.

HD1010
Photo:: f=38 to 380mm (35mm equiv.)
Videos: f=49.7–497mm (35mm equiv.)

HD2000
Photos: f=38-380mm(=35mm) Optical 10x zoom
Videos: f=44.4-710mm(=35mm) 16x Adv. zoom

FH11
Photos: f=35.7-357mm(=35mm) Optical 10x zoom
Videos: f=41.7-666.9mm(=35mm) 16x Adv. zoom

So the "traditional" shaped version gets a wider lens. Notice they list the HD2000 as having a 5.3mm wider area than the HD1010 in video mode. The FX11 is 8mm wider in video than the HD1010. Are those small differences noticeable?

Low light sensitivity is up.
HD1010 - 9 Lux / 3 Lux, HD2000 - 6 Lux / 2 Lux

They list the LCD as having 7 levels of brightness, but I haven't been able to adjust my LCD brightness on the HD1010, it just give "function not available" error message. The FX11 gets a larger 3" LCD vs the HD2000/HD1010.
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