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Old Feb 1, 2006, 8:29 PM   #151
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Maybe I haven't read the manual good enough, but is there a way to lower the sensitivity of the microphone?
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Old Feb 2, 2006, 12:29 PM   #152
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Q: does c6 fit on any regular tripod or I need something special?
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Old Feb 2, 2006, 12:34 PM   #153
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Its got a standard tripod screw on the bottom.

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Old Feb 3, 2006, 3:37 PM   #154
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Hi!Is there any way to trasnfer a SD card content to an iPod? I know that there is card reader for the iPod from Beklin but I don't know if y ou can copy actual mpeg movies done with the C6.Thanks!Andrea
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Old Feb 3, 2006, 5:03 PM   #155
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The Cnet review pointed out that because the C6 lens angles upwards slightly, to put it on a tripod would require a tripod with a tilting base, i.e. you need to tilt the camera down to film directly forward. But I think pretty much any tripod has a tilting head so I didn't understand the point they were trying to make?
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Old Feb 3, 2006, 10:41 PM   #156
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[...]I think pretty much any tripod has a tilting head so I didn't understand the point they were trying to make?
Notlevelwhen you pan horizontally while filming?
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Old Feb 5, 2006, 4:53 PM   #157
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I recently made a series of test pictures with the C6to evaluate the influence of scene modes on shutter speed, aperture (F#), and ASA. I also tested the influence of Stabilizer and Flash on these.

The test included 3 pictures, an exterior shot, an interior (Day) shot, a Low Light shot. For each, the same picture was taken with each scene mode. For the exterior this was done twice with stabilizer ON or OFF; for the interior and lowlight, 4 times with stabilizer ON and flash ON or OFF and stabilizer OFF and flash ON or OFF. The results are originally in an Excel table, but I cannot attach an excel file, so I pasted it as text at the bottom.

Some of the conclusions are:

For Exterior shot, Things seem relatively normal:
Stabilizer increases the shutter speed a bit (logical)
AUTO is the same as NIGHT with medium shutter speed and medium aperture
Sport has the fastest shutter speed but less open (logical)
Landscape is the most open but with slowest shutter speed (logical)

For the Interior shot and the Low light shot, there are some normal and abnormal characteristics.

Stabilizer does not seem to affect any parameters
In general in both Interior and Low Light the system privileges smaller ASA, to the detriment of a slower shutter speed.
This will tend to create blurry pictures with less noise. It would be better to have sharp pictures with more noise.
You can remove noise but not blur.

A way to circumvent this is to force a higher ASA to induce a faster shutter speed.

When Flash is ON, going from Interior to Low Light, the system keeps the same speed but increases the ASA (logical)

When Flash is OFF, going from Interior to Low Light, the system keeps the same ASA but reduces the shutter speed (strange), except for Sport where it protects the speed and raises the ASA (normal). This induces the risk of blurry pictures mentioned above.

You will also notice that on the interior and low light shot, even with the flash, the shutter speed in AUTO is on the slow side (1/30th). Sharp handheld speed is normally 1/60th. So if you are having blured (because of motion not focus) images inside, you may want to use the Sport mode, which brings the speed up to 1/50th, giving you a better chance to have a clear picture.



On the Interior shot, the Flash mostly influences the shutter Speed not the ASA. When there is No flash, the system uses a slower speed but keeps the same ASA (except for a marginal Increase of the ASA On Sport)

On the Low light shot, the Flash seems to activate higher ASA (strange)


Picture / values table

INTERIOR shot
Stabiliser | Flash AUTO | SPORT | PORT | LAND | NIGHT | FWKS

YES | YES Speed1/30 1/50 1/30 1/301/8
ASA 100 200 100 100100
F#3.53.53.5 3.53.5

NO | YES Speed 1/30 1/50 1/301/301/8
ASA 100 200 100100 100
F # 3.5 3.5 3.5 3.5 3.5

YES | NO Speed1/8 1/15 1/7 1/8 1/7 2
ASA100 217 100 100 100 50
F # 3.5 3.5 3.5 3.5 3.5 8

NO | NO Speed 1/7 1/15 1/7 1/4 1/42
ASA 100 216100 100 10050
F # 3.5 3.5 3.5 3.5 3.58

LOW LIGHT Shot
Stabiliser | Flash AUTO | SPORT | PORT | LAND | NIGHT | FWKS
YES | YESSpeed1/30 1/501/30 1/301/4
ASA300 400 200 100 213
F # 3.5 3.5 3.5 3.5 3.5

YES | NO Speed1/2 1/15 1/2 1/31/32
ASA 100 400 100 10010050
F # 3.53.5 3.53.53.58

NO | NOSpeed1/2 1/151/2 1/2 1/2 2
ASA100 400 100 100 100 50
F # 3.5 3.5 3.5 3.5 3.5 8

EXTERIOR shot
Stabiliser | Flash AUTO | SPORT | PORT | LAND | NIGHT | FWKS

YES | NO Speed1/4041/6171/545 1/2311/407
ASA50 50 50 5050
F # 4.53.5 3.5 5.6 4.5

NO | NO Speed 1/353 1/5641/550 1/215 1/393
ASA 5050 5050 50
F #4.5 3.5 3.5 5.6 4.5


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Old Feb 6, 2006, 2:40 AM   #158
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This kind of test is very useful to understand the c6, I hope other examples can be done...it should be profitable to have the resultingsĀ* pics at the same time...and the conclusions !!!I am sure that it is possible to improve the quality of the c6 in playing with the settings ...but these test need time and skills .Thanks again for this contribution I'll try to do the same kind of tests. I would like also to have something on the use of "slave" flashes...I intend to get one of this..maybe the Metz one(34 cs2 or 28 cs2).
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Old Feb 6, 2006, 1:29 PM   #159
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In certain test, the pictures are definitely essential, but in this case, they dont really bring much. You get the same picture six times, with the fireworks one being shaked. The other problem is the fact that this test represents 120Mb of images, and I have no place to post this. If there are any pictures you are really interested in, I could email them separately.

Most of that data simply helps knowing what will happen when you select specific modes. I did draw a few conclusions in my post, mostly that you should be aware that the C6 will not increase ASA indoors to give you more speed, so you may want to switch to manual ASA sometimes, and the fact that it defaults to fairly low speed, so the SPORT mode indoor may be a good alternative. Also remenber that as you half press to focus your picture, it gives you the F# and the speed at the bottom left of the screen so you know what to expect. As you may have noticed you can leave the menu open while taking a picture, which allows you to very quickly try different modes. As you half press, the menu disapears, and as soon as you release, the menu pops back up where it was, so you can select another option and half press again to see the effect.

There are more tests needed especially in Video, to see if the various mode have usefull impacts, as well as if the various autofocus modes make a difference (the C6 tends to be slow focusing in low light which often requires locking the focus while filming), as well as the best light measurement mode.
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Old Feb 7, 2006, 1:02 PM   #160
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I finally got my c6 :-) from J&R with 3-year US warranty. It performs exactly as I expected. Low-light is acceptable and is exactly as tested by other people here.

The biggest problem of that kind of device is the small 720-mah battery. Comparing with my old Olympus with 2 AA batteries giving me 4000 mAh, this one is only 1/6 of that capacity. Hence the flash is probably only 1/3 of regular compact camera brightness and is very short-range. I suppose until the industry comes with at least 2000 mAh tiny batteries like used in c6 we will see manufacturers clipping essential features.

I'm very satisfied for now :-)
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