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velk Jul 17, 2006 6:20 PM

Hi,

I am relative newbie that is planning to buy new camera soon and would appriciate advice from the Maxxum 5D owners.

Majority of the pictures I am taking are animals and nature, and most of them is in the situation when I am hiking or working with the local charities. A lot of them are at or near 12x optical zoom, and IS is really important as I could not have tripod with me in a lot of that situations.

So far, I was fairly happy with the old FZ3, but I feel I am at the point when I need something with more controls on the body of the camera and able to print bigger photos. My choices are narrowed to Maxxum 5D and FZ30, and my budget is below $800, meaning that if I go with Maxxum I would probably not have more then $300 budgeted for lense (so Tamron 28-300 or Tamron 70-300mm).

What is going for FZ30 is price, size and relativelly bright and good lens with enough manual controls. What is bad on FZ30 is low ISO, which is a factor in maybe 15% of pictures I am taking (while high zoom is factor in over a third). If I could afford it, dSLR is preffered, but I need to be able to use it within my budget for lens (and I do not have an option of waiting until I save enough for IS 300mm).

I am interested for the type of the photography that I am doing, would maxxum 5D be a good choice with my lens budget? In particular, would I be able to handheld it at 300mm (effective 450mm) extension? I am aware that Maxxum has IS, but I heard that due to the shifting sensor it is less effective on telephoto range then lens based IS (that are too expensive for my budget). Could anyone with the 5D comment on usability of 300mm telephoto without tripod on 5D?

bernabeu Jul 17, 2006 8:39 PM

With the 5D/7D you get fast shutter speed(s) and high USEABLE ISO ( i shoot @ 400)

KM 7D with reflex 500mm f8 - hand held - stabilization on:

velk Jul 17, 2006 11:12 PM

bernabeu,Thanks - great picture and definetelly shows that stabilization works. And 500mm is much more then what I would be using. Just out of curiosity, what percentage of the daylight shots that you handheld are sharp (e.g. 60%, 90%,95+%) at 500mm?

bernabeu Jul 18, 2006 8:25 AM

for the web - 75%

for printing 8x10 - 40%

RacingManiac Jul 18, 2006 10:32 AM

http://supercarfreak.net/gallery/album290

Some of those are handheld with the Minolta 300mm f4(others are with Sigma 70-200 f2.8 )



This is also a 300mm handheldshot:

http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/2637205q.jpg



AS definitely works....even when panning...

maxxum7d Jul 18, 2006 11:35 AM

What shutter speed?

bernabeu wrote:
Quote:

With the 5D/7D you get fast shutter speed(s) and high USEABLE ISO ( i shoot @ 400)

KM 7D with reflex 500mm f8 - hand held - stabilization on:

maxxum7d Jul 18, 2006 12:37 PM

While posting these shots please don`t forget to mention what shutter speed you were using. I can hold a 500mm on any SLR at f/2000 and get sharp images free of motion blur. In the 7D you can also reduce vibrations by using mirror lockup (it can be used with the 2 second timer)

bernabeu Jul 18, 2006 4:33 PM

from memory: 1/1000 while panning

maxxum7d Jul 18, 2006 5:49 PM

Well, in that case it is supposed to be alright even without antishake, right? What if you try shooting at 1/200 with a 500mm lens and anti shake turned off?

bernabeu wrote:
Quote:

from memory: 1/1000 while panning

maxxum7d Jul 18, 2006 6:10 PM

A simple rule of the thumb is to shoot at shutter speeds that are reciprocals of your focal length in mm. So if you are shooting at 500mm, a shutter speed of 1/500 will give you a sharp shake free shot. You can handheld your 5D with a 300mm lens as long as your shutter speed is set correctly. Play around till you find where the AS kicks in.


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