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Old Apr 13, 2007, 8:53 PM   #1
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I was at my friend's daughter's wedding rehearsal today and the father of the groom just got a Nikon D80. We were comparing cameras (I have a KM5D) and he let me take a few shots with his. He had a Nikkor 17-55 2.8 G (!). Enough said.

Dimly lit church...NO FLASH!!..and great shots. I was really suffering a bad case of "lens envy". So, if $$ wasn't an object, what would be a comparable Minolta lens? Indoors without flash looks really appealling right now, especially with AntiShake.

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Old Apr 13, 2007, 10:49 PM   #2
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The Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 A-mount might interest you. I have one - it works nicely with the A100.

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Old Apr 14, 2007, 12:20 AM   #3
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JUST CRANK UP THE ASA
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Old Apr 14, 2007, 1:59 AM   #4
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The Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 A-mount might interest you. I have one - it works nicely with the A100.

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Yeah, that would be it. I am getting some really nice results with the KM 28-75 f2.8, but of course it is not quite as wide. However, the kit lens is still pretty fast at 18mm f3.5. So I really don't see the need to spend another $450 bucks for 1/2 an f-stop.

Here is an actionshot taken at quite low light with the KM28-75 @ 35mm 1/100 f2.8 ISO 1600.


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Old Apr 14, 2007, 2:07 AM   #5
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In a church with non- or slow moving-moving subjectsyou should be able to take handheld shots with up to 1/15th shutter speed which means you don't have to boost up the ISO as muchand canshoot in even lower lighting conditions than if you have to deal with subject movement, such as in my first shot.

The difference between f2.8 and f3.5 really becomes minor given that even ISO 1600 is still quite usable.

Here is a shot of my son at karate when he was not moving, taken at 1/15th ISO 200 with the KM 28-75 f2.8. It was quite dark in the room. This was taken at 70mm, meaning camera shake was magnified over three times compared to 17 or 18mm. No problem with Anti-Shake.





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Old Apr 14, 2007, 2:15 AM   #6
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Oh, here is an inside church shot, very low light, taken with the kit lens at 22mm f4 ISO 400, 1/6th sec. handheld. (Very slight camera shake visible at 1/6th second)

My point is there is a lot you can do with your existing lenses. Unless youhave the extra budget, I would not spend hundreds of dollars extra to gain 1/2 an f-stop atthe wide angle. Your anti-shake, in fact, gives you 2-3 f-stops over the Nikon anyway, meaning you only need a lens with f5.6 or f8 to get the same results as your friend with the Nikon andhis f2.8 lens.

Make him envious of that. We KM/Sony users should be proud and strong and have no reason to feel inferiortoward the Canon and Nikon Goliaths.


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You're right...size is not everything. It's just that it was HUGE!! But, bigger is not always better, right. For a 17-55 I was just surprised how much glass there was. 77mm across the front. But it is a pro level lens.

After some research, the best Minolta lens I found is the 28-70 2.8 G series. Of course I'll pay $800-1000, but it is the HIGHEST rated lens on Dyxum. 28mm isn't as wide as my kit, but at 70mm it's much more useful than his 55.

It occurred to me that with the added use of my legs, I could've used my 50mm 1.7 and had even better shots than his.


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You're right...size is not everything. It's just that it was HUGE!! But, bigger is not always better, right. For a 17-55 I was just surprised how much glass there was. 77mm across the front. But it is a pro level lens.

After some research, the best Minolta lens I found is the 28-70 2.8 G series. Of course I'll pay $800-1000, but it is the HIGHEST rated lens on Dyxum. 28mm isn't as wide as my kit, but at 70mm it's much more useful than his 55.

It occurred to me that with the added use of my legs, I could've used my 50mm 1.7 and had even better shots than his.

I am curious how the G Series lens compares to the KM 28-75 2.8 which sells for less than half. I am VERY happy with mine.

And you are definitely right. The 50 1.7 certaingly beats any of them in low light if the focal length is right.


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How is this for dimly lit ? and a (slowly) moving subject !?

50mm f1.7 ($99.95 brand new) HAND HELD
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Old Apr 14, 2007, 3:46 PM   #10
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or this ?

28-100 'kit' lens

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