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Old Dec 19, 2007, 1:00 PM   #1
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I have the 50mm 1.7 (RS), I have to stop down to 2.8 to get sharp pictures, I want to get the brand new 50mm 1.4 from B&H ($324) because it's lot sharper at wide open and very sharp at 2, I also see the used 85mm 1.4 on ebay ($800): http://cgi.ebay.com/Minolta-AF-85mm-...QQcmdZViewItem

I want a really good portraid lens that has excellent sharpness and bokeh, can't make final decision, need advice. Thanks
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Old Dec 19, 2007, 3:45 PM   #2
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I'd go for the 85mm f/1.4 or 100mm f/2.

I've got the Minolta 100mm f/2. It's a super lens (but, it's hard to find). It's sharper at most apertures in common with the 85mm f/1.4 according to photodo.com.

For example, the 100mm f/2 is sharper wide open at f/2, compared to the 85mm f/1.4G a stop down at f/2.

You'll see both lenses under Minolta here:

http://old.photodo.com/nav/prodindex.html

Minolta 100mm f/2 Autofocus Lens:
Photodo test result: 4,4
Effective focal length: 97
Weighted MTF for 100 mm: f2 0,75, f2,8 0,77, f4 0,84, f8 0,85
Average Weighted MTF: 0,85 Grade: 4,4
Weighted MTF 10 lp/mm: 0,91
Weighted MTF 20 lp/mm: 0,82
Weighted MTF 40 lp/mm: 0,62


Minolta 85mm f/1.4G Autofocus Lens:
Photodo test result: 3,9
Effective focal length: 84 mm
Weighted MTF for 85 mm: f1,4 0,59, f2 0,71, f2,8 0,77, f4 0,80, f8 0,81
Average Weighted MTF: 0,80 Grade: 3,9
Weighted MTF 10 lp/mm: 0,89
Weighted MTF 20 lp/mm: 0,76
Weighted MTF 40 lp/mm: 0,53

For example, here's a snapshot I took with a Maxxum 5D wearing the Minolta 100mm f/2 Autofocus Lens, with the aperture wide open at f/2.

Note the creamy bokeh:



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In the 85mm lenses, between the Sony/Zeiss and the original Minolta, I'd probably go for the Minolta 85mm f/1.4 (G or not, wouldn't make any difference to me). It appears to have slightly better bokeh compared to the Carl Zeiss lens.

http://www.keh.com usually has some in stock, starting in the 800's).

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Therewas two 100 f/2s that have sold in the last 3 weeks at KEH. The first one was $789 complete with hood and caps in EX condition. The second was $729 no hoods or caps also in EX condition. There out there you just have to check everyday if you want one. They usually are gone the first day there listed.
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I have the SAL50F14 lens I got from B&H for $325 and I love it. It's fairly sharp at f1.4 and it gets very sharp by f2. It's been a great lens for indoor photography (no flash) with my A700.
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Therewas two 100 f/2s that have sold in the last 3 weeks at KEH. The first one was $789 complete with hood and caps in EX condition. The second was $729 no hoods or caps also in EX condition.
That's steep. I know they're hard to find. But, $700+ is a bit much.


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That's steep. I know they're hard to find. But, $700+ is a bit much.

Lens lust was never cheap! This is the going rate for this lens now. You got a deal with yours. :-)
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I bought most of my lenses before the 5D was shipping. I figured that prices would go up over time.

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I bought my Minolta 100mm f/2 AF Lens from Adorama for $299. :-)

I started buying Minolta lenses before I had a Minolta camera to mount them on, starting with a Minolta 135mm f/2.8 AF Lens from B&H, since I knew I would probably go with a Maxxum 7D or 5D. I was just waiting on the 5D to start shipping to compare them.

My first Minolta camera was a Minolta Maxxum 7000, bought mostly to get the 50mm f/1.7 AF Lens bundled with it. I got this kit for a "Buy it Now" price of $49 on Ebay, including a Minolta 7000 35mm SLR, Minolta 50mm f/1.7 AF Lens, Minolta 1800AF Flash + cases and manuals.

I've got a second Maxxum 7000 now. I bought a Maxxum 7000 with a Minolta 35-70mm f/4 Macro lens from keh.com for $52 a while back.




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Old Dec 20, 2007, 11:44 AM   #10
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I orderd the 50mm 1.4 from B&H, there are few reasons:

1- The 85 1.4 cost too much for me at this time.

2- The MTF is 4.4, the same of the 100 f2, other scores from photodo of these two lenses are almost the same.

3- 50mm equal to 75mm on the A700, close to 85mm.

I know I will also get the 85/1.4 when I have the money.
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