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Old Feb 7, 2015, 5:59 PM   #1
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I am almost set to get 77II camera, anyone has one and what is your opinion?


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Old Feb 8, 2015, 6:21 AM   #2
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What do you have now?

What do you want to shoot?
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I have FZ200 which I am very happy with it but I want to open the range a little bit, I shoot mostly my kid and a family but also a scenery, nature, anything which catches my eye while I am out and about
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The A77 II is a fine camera with lots of possibilities. It uses the same image sensor that Nikon and Pentax use in their 24MP dSLRs, so good image quality is assured.

For indoor/event shooting, the 16-50/2.8 is a good choice for available light, and the 16-80/3.5-4.5 is good if you'll be using a flash. For outdoor shooting, they're both very good, but not very long. You could use a 55-200 or 70-300 for stuff that requires a longer focal length. The 70-300 is better and longer than the 55-200, and better than the 55-300, but it's bigger, heavier and more expensive.
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I shoot the A77 mainly with a long 50-500 Sigma lens. The A77II has a much better AF system for tracking moving subjects and better sensor performance. Still, with my particular screw drive lens, I'm not sure there is enough upside to justify switching to the A77II.

If I was you just starting out I'd get a Tamron 70-300 ISD VC lens for the longer reach and something like the 17-50 f2.8 for close in low light shots. For really long reach for wildlife shooting I'd look to the Tamron 150-600. The Sony SAL1650 and Sony 70-300G are a good lens but I'm not sure they are worth twice the price of the Tamron's. There is said to be an announcement pending for a new Sony 70-300 which will likely push it's price over $1000 CAD.

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That will set you back about $2000 by the time you buy new higher speed SD cards, an extra battery, and pay taxes for the A77II.

Why not look into the Panasonic FZ1000 in comparison? $900 at Henrys. Compared to the FZ200 it has a larger sensor for better low light performance and generally much higher quality images. It also has a very fast AF system and 4K video.

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I shoot the A77 mainly with a long 50-500 Sigma lens. The A77II has a much better AF system for tracking moving subjects and better sensor performance. Still, with my particular screw drive lens, I'm not sure there is enough upside to justify switching to the A77II.

If I was you just starting out I'd get a Tamron 70-300 ISD VC lens for the longer reach and something like the 17-50 f2.8 for close in low light shots. For really long reach for wildlife shooting I'd look to the Tamron 150-600. The Sony SAL1650 and Sony 70-300G are a good lens but I'm not sure they are worth twice the price of the Tamron's. There is said to be an announcement pending for a new Sony 70-300 which will likely push it's price over $1000 CAD.

http://www.photoprice.ca/product/037...ony-price.html

http://www.photoprice.ca/product/031...pha-price.html

http://www.photoprice.ca/product/006...ony-price.html

http://www.photoprice.ca/product/038...2.8-price.html



That will set you back about $2000 by the time you buy new higher speed SD cards, an extra battery, and pay taxes for the A77II.

Why not look into the Panasonic FZ1000 in comparison? $900 at Henrys. Compared to the FZ200 it has a larger sensor for better low light performance and generally much higher quality images. It also has a very fast AF system and 4K video.
Hmmm I need to think about it especially if I will
trade my FZ 200.......
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The lens in the Panasonic FZ200 has a 35mm equivalent focal length of 25-600mm, or a horizontal angle of view of ~3.44. The Sony 70-300mm lens I mentioned, when mounted on an APS-C body like the A77 II, would have a 35mm equivalent focal length of 105-450, or a horizontal angle of view of ~4.58. If you need the extra reach that the 600mm focal length will give you, you can use the Sony 70-400mm which is also excellent, but it's bigger, heavier, and more expensive.

Of course, the Tamron 150-600 and the Sigma 50-500 are bigger and heavier still, and while they are very good lenses, they're not as good as the Sony 70-300 or the Sony 70-400.

When comparing the A77 II to your FZ200, you should consider that the A77 II produces 24MP images that are much lower in image noise and much higher in dynamic range than the 12MP images produced by the FZ200.
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The lens in the Panasonic FZ200 has a 35mm equivalent focal length of 25-600mm, or a horizontal angle of view of ~3.44. The Sony 70-300mm lens I mentioned, when mounted on an APS-C body like the A77 II, would have a 35mm equivalent focal length of 105-450, or a horizontal angle of view of ~4.58. If you need the extra reach that the 600mm focal length will give you, you can use the Sony 70-400mm which is also excellent, but it's bigger, heavier, and more expensive.

Of course, the Tamron 150-600 and the Sigma 50-500 are bigger and heavier still, and while they are very good lenses, they're not as good as the Sony 70-300 or the Sony 70-400.

When comparing the A77 II to your FZ200, you should consider that the A77 II produces 24MP images that are much lower in image noise and much higher in dynamic range than the 12MP images produced by the FZ200.
when I decided to look at dslr's type camera It wasn't about reach but much about noise reduction I couldn't get the quality of a pic I was satisfied in the lower light, and I was still going to keep FZ 200 when I get Sony A77 just because of the telephoto qualities, now with FZ 1000 on the table I can have only one camera and lower light pictures might be good enough for me to be happy with them, .........need to think about it more
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While the FZ1000 is a big improvement over the FZ200, it's still no match for the A77 II. See DxOMark: Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ1000 versus Sony SLT Alpha 77 II versus Panasonic LUMIX DMC-FZ200. (Click on the Measurements Tab, then click on SNR %18 and Dynamic Range.)
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I just got the A77II and haven't used it yet (just arrived last night) so I'm no help to you for now. But I wanted to say what I thought was cool that I got it.

There's software called Capture One (by PhaseOne) that apparently is really good that it's probably known only within professional circles.

But Sony likely made an arrangement with PhaseOne so the Sony "express" version of Capture One is free. (http://www.phaseone.com/Imaging-Soft...-for-Sony.aspx)

If you want to go pro, the Capture One Pro version which sells for $299 for Nikon, Canon, etc. costs only $30 for the Sony.

What's so cool to me about the pro version is tethering. I can connect the A77II to my Windows laptop via USB and control the camera from it complete with live view. I no longer need to buy an expensive-but-dumb $150 field monitor (like these at amazon: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...=field+monitor) but instead with $30 software am able to even control my camera from my bigger screen laptop. That to me alone is worth the difference between A77 and A77II and any other DSLR no matter the brand for that matter.



EDIT: Just in case anyone gets sold by my Capture One Pro argument for the A77II, please note it requires a 64-bit Windows version. I tried installing on my Windows tablet but it wasn't 64-bit so it wouldn't install.

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