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Old Aug 23, 2004, 3:51 PM   #1
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About 4 days ago, photos appeared on a web site in Germany about a new DiMAGE A200 model (appears to be similar to the A2). The photos were quickly pulled. Here is the page (from Google's cache). It appeared to be setup in advance of Photokina for KM product announcements (but I have no way to verify that).

http://tinyurl.com/62277

Another viewer also reported finding pages with photos of the new Dynax 7D. All of the photos from both models were copied and uploaded to an album on pbase.com. I have no way to verify the authenticity of the photos.

They are different than the photos from PMA of the mockup. So, if authentic, they could be from a later prototype. Personally, I expected the model name to change prior to going into production (but this is only speculation on my part). You'll have to judge for yourselves if these are real. Also note the 17-35mm lens.

Here is the link to photos of both cameras (A200 and Dynax 7D):

http://www.pbase.com/d7d/root



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Old Aug 24, 2004, 10:48 AM   #2
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Here is the link to photos of both cameras (A200 and Dynax 7D):

http://www.pbase.com/d7d/root


The photos in this album have now been pulled (after more than 28,000 hits intwo days).

We don't know whether Pbase.com pulled them, the user pulled them (or if pressure from KM may have been a contributing factor).
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Someone save them already : http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=10007397
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I copied thehigher resolution (2126 x 1556) imagesbefore the album disappeared (but I'd be hesitant to post them, due to legal concerns).

Here are direct links to downsized versions of the A200 and D7D images that someone else posted on their own site:

http://www.hardwebcafe.com/d7d/km-01.jpg

http://www.hardwebcafe.com/d7d/km-02.jpg

http://www.hardwebcafe.com/d7d/km-03.jpg

http://www.hardwebcafe.com/d7d/km-04.jpg

http://www.hardwebcafe.com/d7d/km-05.jpg

http://www.hardwebcafe.com/d7d/km-06.jpg


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How does the A200 fit in all of this? It now looks just like sissy down 8700... Where is all the rough edges? :-):-):-)
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Well, the A200 appears to have the same lens as the A2. It also has a hinge on it for a swivel out LCD (but the EVF appears to be stationary). The A200 appears to have a focus assist lamp on it, too (in the front).

The strangest thing about the A200 pics is the hotshoe. So, KM may be planning on releasing a new series of flashes. I guess we'll need to wait until Photokina to find out much more (unless they decide to issue some press about it before then).


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I don't think its an assist lamp, previous Dimages had them too for timer release so one can tell when the camera will go off when the blinking speed-up... Also not the most optimum location for it since the fingers will get in the way!

It looks to me like the flash socket is still the same as before (as is on the D7D) and all other Minolta flashes, ie they are not your normal type, but with push-button latch as always http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D7HI/D7HIA6.HTM

... Also note the slots on either side of the hot-shoe may be the EVF still swing-up (IMO it's a very useful feature short of laying flat on the ground for close up). May be they've lowered so they can share the same display as in the Z's series camera
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Edited (I had the orientation wrong from the crops).

The A200 contacts still don't look like electical contacts though.

Here are new crops from both cameras (the contacts do have the same layout in both):

7D:


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The contact on the D7D looks backward to me... I have my 5600HS(D) in front of me and it lines up with the A200 and the D7Hi on my previous link
The shape of the center channel is cut funny that's all I can tell from the A200 picture, but the end groves spacing seem similar so the old flashes would still fit :?

The D7D really looks then like an unfinished product if all its flash contacts are backward! The other thing missing is the "Megapixels". Frankly if it's only 6Mpixel then someone didn't do their homework: Even with Anti-Shake it's going to be a hard sell with the A2 (and A200) @ 8Mpixels and all the upcoming 7Mpixels P/S from everyone. Nikon, Olympus and Pentax are sure not sitting still during the past year to watch Canon coming out with the 20D
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My fault. I screwed up the crops (see the edit in my previous post with new crops from both models).

I thinktheD7Dwill be 6MP with a 1.5x crop factor -- most likely using a Sony Sensor (although I have seen posts from someone claiming that a KM Manager in Poland told him that it was NOT a Sony sensor). I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Yes.... the anti-shake alone could be a hard sell. Also, the CCD movement could restrict the ability of the camera to use lenses specifically designed for DSLR models with a crop factor (like some of the new Sigma DC lenses available in either Canon or Nikon Mounts). Although, I wouldn't be too sure until we see how it's designed. KM could have incorporated some logic to limit CCD movement with some lens types. Worst case is that you could always just turn off the anti-shake. So, we'll have to wait and see what KM (and others) may or may not introduce as far as new lensesthat may work with it.

I'm personally not concerned about the 6MP limitation (if that's what it is). If the autofocus works as well as the Dynax / Maxxum 7 Film versions, then it should be much better than the competition. So, that's a selling point. The viewfinder should also be much better than other models in it's class if it's like the D7 film cameras. I've got a feeling that it will be priced competitively, too. After all, look at how KM priced the A1/A2 models in comparison to the competition.It's not like they have to pay someone else for the anti-shake technology.

I've got a feeling that they're going to want market penetration with this one. So, I think they'll price it right to get it.


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