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Old Jun 12, 2006, 11:27 AM   #1
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I have been researching to the point that I am starting to go crazy.* I am in the market for a telephoto zoom.* Definetly want the range of up to 210-300mm.* Options come down to:Minolta 70-210 f/4.0 usedMinolta 70-210 f/3.5-4.5 usedMinolta 75-300 f4.5-5.6 used cannot findTamron 28-300 XR LD, not the XR DiThe Minoltas are difficult to find and demand a good price.* Will I be happy with a max 210mm lens versus a 300mm?* Is there a new version of the Minolta 75-300 worth considering?* Any links to a good deal.* Push me over the edge please.
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Old Jun 12, 2006, 11:42 AM   #2
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the minolta 75-300 f4.5-5.6 is consumer grade crap (sold for $155 NEW)

the 70-210 f4 and the f3-5-4.5 are excellent

imo: any zoom in excess of 2.5X will have so many compromises as to be almost junk

the best minolta zoom tele ever made is the HS AF 80-200mm f2.8 APO ($8-900 used)
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Old Jun 12, 2006, 12:22 PM   #3
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Adding to the confusion, 100-200 f/4.5 (used ~$65).

I havent heard of any zooms that go out to 300mm or more that are well liked, but everyone likes the f/4 so thats a pretty sure thing. I dont use telephoto lenses much so I opted for the 100-200 to save a substantial amount of money but also to get a lens small enough that I'm able to keep it with me in my camera bag all the time. The 70-210/4 would get left behind. I think the f/3.5-4.5 is similarly small.

I'd like to have a 400mm lens too, for small critters, occasional birds, and such but I just dont see that happening ($$$!!!). I may pick up one of the $100 500mm mirror lenses someday to play around a bit though.

Aside from a few special situations any lens with f/5.6 max aperture is 'cheap'. Make sure your paying accordingly.
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Old Jun 12, 2006, 12:36 PM   #4
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Minimum lengths (from dyxum.com)

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18-70 f/3.5-5.6 3.03"
100-200 f/4.5 3.72"
70-210 f/3.5-4.5 3.93"
70-210 f/4 5.98"
80-200 f/2.8 6.53"
70-200 f/2.8 Sgma 7.24"
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Old Jun 12, 2006, 2:45 PM   #5
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cannot find Tamron 28-300 XR LD, not the XR Di. Any links to a good deal.? Push me over the edge please.
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I found a used Minolta 70-210 f/3.5-4.5 for about half the price of the beercan.* For the money and the size and weight, should this seal the deal?* Or is the prime definetly the way to go?* The Tamron is nice because of the focal range, but I am not excited about the plastic mount and quality.
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I found a used Minolta 70-210 f/3.5-4.5 for about half the price of the beercan.? For the money and the size and weight, should this seal the deal?? Or is the prime definetly the way to go?? The Tamron is nice because of the focal range, but I am not excited about the plastic mount and quality.
The Tamron 28-300 has a SS mount over a plastic body. Search this forum as well as dpreview for satisfied owners. As for the 70-210 3.5-4.5, if its' the 55mm filter model, I would get it at that price. I have one of the early ones and it's a nice lens.
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I agree with Cope, the 70-210 f3.5-4.5 is a sharp, compact, and lightweight lens. IMO it is a better buy than the beercan- you don't dread lugging it around all day. It makes up for the 1/3 stop loss at full zoom by the 1/3 stop gain at the short end.

I also am no fan of composite (plastic) mounts. It looks like we better get used to them tho.
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I'd bite the bullet and get the 70-210 f4. If you get a OK copy you'll be impressed. Remember, you are trying to buy a lens at the worst time ever, prices have gone through the roof! You could wait until the Sony lenses come out, people may dump some of thier old lenses, or ?



bernabeu; I've always respectfully used your Knowledge for guidance in deciding my lens arsenal but your zoom lens criteria is tightening.

not realistic

any 'affordable' zoom in excess of 3x is 'junk'

(ie: maxxum HS AF 80-200mm f2.8 APO = $1700)

for 'walk-around' try to get a used (available at keh.com) maxxum 35-70mm f4 macro

razor sharp, relatively 'fast', 52 -105 equiv range, and 1:2 macro (after cropping)




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now?



imo: any zoom in excess of 2.5X will have so many compromises as to be almost junk


I,m happy with the 70-210 I purchased back in Feb. after reading your post. But 7x3=21




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Old Jun 12, 2006, 9:10 PM   #10
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Thanks for the info fellas.* I bought the Minolta 70-210 f/3.5-4.5 55mm model.* I am looking forward to the extra focal length. *I second the recommendation of lomitamike on the Minolta* 35-70 f/4.0 walk around lens.* This is the current lens that stays on my 5D.
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