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Old Aug 2, 2003, 4:51 PM   #1
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Default Sony DSC 717 vs Minolta 7hi???

I have been reading up on these 2 cameras, and finding little bad about each one. Does anyone have strong preference for one vs the other? I know they are not the same price or anything, but I am having my first child, and don't want to miss anything.

Beyond image quality, I want quick shot to shot, and power on to shot times. I want it to be easy to use (for the wife), but be able to play with everything (for me).

Let me know what you guys think.

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Old Aug 2, 2003, 6:55 PM   #2
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well like you said there is a little bad in both of them. the layout of a D7hi is closer to that of a true slr along with its capabilities.

the question has been asked many times and the comparisons made read the sony group and the minolta group.

my list is simple in favor of the D7Hi
1 CF card and can use xD and SD with adapters if need be. no one else takes it too seriously. the only other current maker, konica, only supports the memorystick not the MS pro. the primary memory card is SD that works well.
2 RAW capability
3 manual zoom (no push buttons) just like a real slr
4 true wide angle without addons( try shooting indoors)
5 a well integrated external flash
6 manual ring type focus close to a real slr

1 memory stick propriatory and limited and more expensive per MB at this time
2 sony doesn't do RAW
3 self explanatory
4 quite a difference in the wide angle end between 28 and 35
5 sony- What integrated external flash that little one doesnt do that much good beyont 10-15 ft
6 try it on a sony its fun.

they are 2 very different types of digicams. if you come from the p/s world the sony will do the job and for less.. there are better p/s's out there then either one. if you want control or are use to an slr the 7 is closer over all. i made my decision. that is not to say my choice was perfect. its just my next step up was the closest thing to it.
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Old Aug 4, 2003, 4:46 PM   #3
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the battery life is what made me go with the 717 over the Minolta
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i sort of thought that the important factors in a camera were its capability to take images. yes the 7 series ain't light on batteries but in the versatility/capability department it blows the rest pretty much away. buying a camera strictly on battery consumption is just a little short sighted.
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Didn't we go over this subject zillion of times? A set of average NiMh will last all day for most people with the D7i:
http://www.stevesforums.com/phpBB2/v...356&highlight=

One battery might last longer on the F717, but you have to keep feeding it puny size MemorySticks! Which one is more affordable? AA's NIMh or MemorySticks (including the larger size sticks vs 1G CF)?
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actually 2 zillion times. but what does it matter.
oh, by the way, the 717 does support the MS pro 1GB stick. but then again that only 2x as much as the average HS 1GB CF card.
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Hello.

Memory media's are not that important. All work well and cost money.

More important: How is it's handling. Fits the camera in your hand. Is there a clear display. etc

Things that favourite the Sony F707/ F717:

-accu( I prefer to chance sticks than batteries)
-rotatable lens (good for your back, when shooting at baby level)
-Good auto-focus in low ligth (indoor)
-Hot shoe for decent flash.
-lower price know for memorysticks (all other media is still cheaper)
-Difference between f707/ f717 is minimal. (Minolta had if I am right: di 7, 7i,7h in less than a year. Took some time to get it right)
-Lens: carl zeis.

Negative things after use 1 year:
-Sort of grainy photo's. Most of them needs a bit ps work. There are other cam's with better color/ contrast.
-Macro is close--up, not really enlargement. Need extra macro-rings.
-No use of ring flash with f707. (minolta has one available)


good luck with your choice!
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Minolta had if I am right: di 7, 7i,7h in less than a year.
... It's actually 2 years, since I've got the 1st D7's 8)

The improved D7i and D7Hi are actually two different models (silver or black) coming almost simultaneously and serving two different markets (ie high speed RAW capture that the F707/F717 can't) and with both models selling concurrently. Also don't forget the wireless external flash system similar to the higher-end dSLR, but compatible with both D7i and D7hi.

... and they are still at it (with improved battery and image stabilizer!) :lol:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...essage=5759200
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Old Aug 5, 2003, 8:53 PM   #9
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"memory media doesn't matter"

that seems to be the mantra of the users who trap themselves in a propriatary format that no one uses. memory does matter. you have to purchase it and use it along with you camera. then when you decide to move on hopefully you can sell it with your camera. whereas open designs such as CF or SD and even xD allow for greater use via basic design and allowances for adaption.
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Sony seem to have addressed most of the items on sjms's list on the new 828.
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