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Old Aug 29, 2008, 10:29 AM   #21
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finally got my new H50....here is a test edited to add...ISO 400 F3.5 S 1/60 handheld with my swing arm lamp for lighting, CRF bulb.
Withthe EXIF data is missing from the image, it's difficult for one to comment on the results with accuracy. I can't tell whether the WB was well handled by the camera or fine tuned in PP. Also, I find the colors way over saturated, causing some smearing and lack of detail but then again, I don't knowwhether that's coming from the camera being set to a mode that has a highsaturationvalue or saturation was cranked up in PP. Whatever the case may be, I'd suggest lowering saturation not onlyto obtain more naturallooking images but to increase the level of detail. That's my 2c.
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 10:39 AM   #22
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I also have the same concerns as Tucu about the two fotos and focus...
oh, all I did here was shrink and crop. edited to add...ISO 80 F8 1/60 shutter priority
Again, without the EXIF information, it is difficult to tell what's going on. The rose appears to be in focus and if I had to guess, I'd say the softness is due to low light and consequentlyslow shutter speed.Also keep in mind that at ISO 400, some detail will be lost. I have the A300 and find it very noisy at ISO 400 so I won't expect much from the H50 in terms of high ISO control. Sony is applying some very heavy noise reduction at anyISO above 400 at the cost of loss in detail.

Even though the colors are vibrant,the image isa bitover saturated and that, believe it or not, will reduce the amount of detail as well.
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 3:13 PM   #23
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please can any one tell me the major difference btw the sony h-10 and the h-50/h-9 apart from the zoom and night mode function. i just bought a h-10 now i am thinking could have saved a bit and got ah-50 as its getting moreappreciation i just opted h-10 for its size thinking that h10 and h50 image quality will be more or less identical.
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Old Aug 29, 2008, 3:33 PM   #24
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First, you would not be saving $$$ by getting the H50 since it's a more expensive camera. There are many (significant)differences between the two models, such as:

# of MP (more on the H50)

Sensor size (bigger on the H50)

Lens (wider and longer on the H50)

Digital zoom (up to 30x on the H50 vs. 2x on the H10) - this is not a big deal since digital zoom is useless in most cases

Aperture range (larger on the H50)

Ability to shoot in S, A and M modes (only available on the H50)

Flash (stronger on the H50)

...and the list goes on and on. The H10 is a small P&S to carry around but it has many limitations. If size and $$$ are not issues for you and if you can still return your H10, I'd run and exchange it for the H50 right away.


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Camera


Sony DSC-H10


Sony DSC-H50


Max resolution


3264 x 2448


3456 x 2592



Low resolution


3264 x 2176, 2592 x 1944, 2048 x 1536, 1920 x 1080, 640 x 480


3456 x 2304, 3456 x 1944, 2592 x 1944, 2048 x 1536, 1920 x 1080, 640 x 480



Image ratio w:h


4:3, 3:2, 16:9






Effective pixels


8.1 million


9.1 million



Sensor photo detectors


8.3 million


10.3 million



Sensor size


1/2.5" (5.75 x 4.31 mm, 0.24 cm²)


1/2.3" (6.16 x 4.62 mm, 0.28 cm²)



Pixel density


33 MP/cm²


32 MP/cm²



Sensor type


CCD


CCD



Sensor manufacturer


Unknown


Unknown



ISO rating


Auto, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200


Auto, 80, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200



Zoom wide (W)


38 mm


31 mm



Zoom tele (T)


380 mm (10 x)


465 mm (15 x)



Digital zoom


Yes, up to 2x


Yes, up to 30x



Image stabilization


Yes, Lens


Yes, Lens



Auto Focus


Yes


Yes



Manual Focus


No


Yes



Auto focus type


TTL autofocus (9-point)


TTL autofocus (9-point)



Normal focus range


50 cm


50 cm



Macro focus range


2 cm


1 cm



White balance override


7 positions


7 positions plus manual



Aperture range


F3.5 - F8.0


F2.7 - F4.5



Min shutter


30 sec


30 sec



Max shutter


1/2000 sec


1/4000 sec



Built-in Flash


Yes, pop-up


Yes, pop-up



Flash guide no.


7.0 m (22.9 ft) (Auto ISO)


9.1 m (29.8 ft)



External flash


No


No



Flash modes


Auto, On, Off, Red-Eye reduction, Slow Sync


Auto, On, Off, Red-Eye reduction, Slow Sync, Front Curtain, Rear Curtain



Exposure compensation


-2 to +2 EV in 1/3 EV Steps


-2 to +2 EV in 1/3 EV Steps



Metering


Multi-Pattern, Center-Weighted, Spot


Multi-Pattern, Center-Weighted, Spot



Aperture priority


No


Yes



Shutter priority


No


Yes



Focal length multiplier









Lens thread


Yes


Yes



Continuous Drive


Yes


Yes, 1.6 fps, 100 images



Movie Clips


Yes, 640 x 480, 30 fps, 320 x 240, 30 fps


Yes, 640 x 480, 30 fps, 320 x 240, 8 fps



Remote control


Yes


Yes



Self-timer


2 or 10 sec


2 or 10 sec



Timelapse recording


No


No



Orientation sensor


No


No



Storage types


Memory Stick Duo / Pro Duo, Internal


Memory Stick Duo / Pro Duo, Internal



Storage included


31 MB Internal


15 MB Internal



Uncompressed format


No


No



Compressed format


JPEG (EXIF 2.2)


JPEG (EXIF 2.2)



Quality Levels


Fine, Standard


Fine, Standard



Viewfinder


No


Electronic



LCD


3.0"


3.0"



LCD Pixels


230,000


230,000



Video out


Yes


Yes



USB


Yes, 2.0 Hi-Speed


Yes, 2.0 Hi-Speed



Firewire (IEEE 1394)


No


No



Battery / Charger


Yes


Yes



Battery


Lithium-Ion (NP-BG1) & charger


Lithium-Ion (NP-BG1) & charger



Weight (inc. batteries)


296 g (10.4 oz)


547 g (19.3 oz)



Dimensions


106 x 68.5 x 48.9 mm (4.2 x 2.7 x 1.9 in)


116.1 x 81.4 x 86.0 mm (4.6 x 3.2 x 3.4 in)

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Old Aug 30, 2008, 4:56 AM   #25
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thanks for your reply but here in pakistan there is no such thing as returning and exchanging, once you have opened the box its your. so i am happy with itfor the time will plan toget a good dslr in near future. one more thing i like to ask i have captured similar shots with my h-10 and the h-9 of my friend using a tripod and the only difference i came to know was the littlewider lens of the h-9 apart from that thereis no major image quality difference even at the night. took pics with the auto modeon both cams. i am not a professional just choosed h-10 for its longer zoom rangeas tz5 wasnt available here and sx-100 is really a pain coz of itsflash recycle it drives u wild.
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Old Aug 31, 2008, 11:20 AM   #26
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As long as you are happy with it, it's allthat counts. In the end, IQ is what really matters.
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Old Aug 31, 2008, 2:50 PM   #27
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image quality is superb for such a camera and believe me i have found no differences in the IQ of h-10 and h-9. can u tell how h50 is superior to h9 ?? apart from the 1 extra megapixel
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I don't have either camera. I bought the H3 for my 11 year oldson a few months ago and it serves its purpose. The camera is a truly P&S, with many limitations regarding settings and modes. I bought the H50 but sent it back after 3 days. I find the Panasonic FZ18 to be a much superior camera.
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I would ike to see the superior findings you found, post a superior photo for us to see
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You can do a search in the Panasonic forum. I posted many pictures taken with the FZ18. The FZ18 has an awesome 18x optical zoom Leica lens to begin with. The lens is pretty much distortion free, which is rarefor this type of zoom lens.The camerahas a much faster AF system, more settings, more features, and the list goes on and on.
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