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Old Apr 14, 2011, 4:19 AM   #21
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[QUOTE=Macbeth;1218180]Will there be different versions of the HX9V for USA (NTSC) and
Europe (PAL), or can I always select between 50/60 fps?

You cannot switch, Eu is PAL @ 50p AND limited to 29 minutes (to avoid Eu camcorder taxation).
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Old Apr 14, 2011, 4:49 AM   #22
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Thanks! I think I'd have to order a 60p model from outside the EU then...

... and does some one know about how the iMovie compatibility works?
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Old Apr 14, 2011, 10:18 AM   #23
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Thanks! I think I'd have to order a 60p model from outside the EU then...

... and does some one know about how the iMovie compatibility works?


Being a PC tech I can help with this one. Any video format can be converted after the fact. It just sometimes takes a while to convert depending on the speed of your system and if your software uses any hardware acceleration. I believe i Movie will convert automatically but I am not 100% sure. If you go over to this site

http://www.videohelp.com/

it should give you all the answers you need. It has forums and tools and programs etc. All just on video editing and such.
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Thanks for the link!
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Old May 18, 2011, 8:26 PM   #25
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Just to follow-up on this thread with some real world experience. Today a Sony tech took over my computer for an hour and a half trying to figure out how-in-the-world to import a 1080p (60P) 28 Mbps clip from my HVX9. Import where? ANYWHERE! Just get the thing on my computer somehow.

He could not-- and finally decreed it impossible.

I then went to the Apple store and sat with a genius to try and achieve the same thing.

He could NOT. And this is what we all learned today:

iMovie WILL import all the resolutions of clips from the HX9 EXCEPT the 1080p (60P) resolution. Same for Final Cut Pro. To access those highest resolution clips you must pull them off your SD card and convert them.

First, to locate them, drill down into your SD card to:

NO NAME >>> Private >>> AVCHD >>> BDMV >>> STREAM >>> 00001.MTS (etc.)

THERE are your video clips. The only player I have found that will play these files is the VLC (bless them):

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

Now you must find a way to convert these to a format you can actually use.

For this, I have Toast Titanium 10, and it does a beautiful job. Here is a clip I uploaded to Youtube full of terrible camerawork and a fun song that just happened to be on CBC2 at the time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzyysnM8jvk

Go ahead; watch it in full 1080P, I dare ya!

The only down side is that my 1 minute 47 second clip which was originally 337MB became a 1.87 clip when converted to H.264 best quality, single pass. But, gosh darnit, this is the best video I have ever seen on a $350.00 point and shoot camera. Especially effective was the anti-shake feature which resulted in running footage smooth enough to actually use.

Hope this was useful to somebody...

--Scott

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Just to follow-up on this thread with some real world experience. Today a Sony tech took over my computer for an hour and a half trying to figure out how-in-the-world to import a 1080p (60P) 28 Mbps clip from my HVX9. Import where? ANYWHERE! Just get the thing on my computer somehow.
He could not-- and finally decreed it impossible.
I then went to the Apple store and sat with a genius to try and achieve the same thing.
He could NOT.
Scotious, that Toast conversion... is it lossless?
Before I bought the SONY HX9V I checked the SONY and iMovie '11
compatibility lists - the camera is on both!
I found a native sample movie and just re-wrapped the 1080/60p MTS
using ClipWrap (http://www.divergentmedia.com/clipwrap) to AIF,
which iMovie accepts as a 1080/30p without any problem.
I guess it simply skips each second frame.
Export quality is better than with my 800 camcorder.
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Old May 19, 2011, 9:29 AM   #27
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>>that Toast conversion... is it lossless?<<

I didn't try-- i used the H.264, best quality setting. I find this really looks good on most video. But Clipwrap looks really good, and I will try that. File size does seem to be the bigaboo with these things, though. Do you have any stats I can use to compare?


>>Before I bought the SONY HX9V I checked the SONY and iMovie '11
compatibility lists - the camera is on both!<<

They just fail to mention that neither company's software recognizes the highest-resolution video.

>>I found a native sample movie and just re-wrapped the 1080/60p MTS
using ClipWrap (http://www.divergentmedia.com/clipwrap) to AIF, <<

Do you really mean AIF? isn't that audio only format (Audio Interchange File Format)

>>Export quality is better than with my 800 camcorder. <<

Amazing, isn't it?

I LOVE the easy panoramas, too.

Best, Scott

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>>I found a native sample movie and just re-wrapped the 1080/60p MTS
using ClipWrap (http://www.divergentmedia.com/clipwrap) to AIF, <<

Do you really mean AIF? isn't that audio only format (Audio Interchange File Format)
Sorry, I meant AIC (Apple Intermediate Codec)!

Using ClipWrap you avoid double lossy conversion.
(Toast conversion + iMovie import to AIC.)
You can compare the quality - the test version (up to 1 minute) is free.
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Ahhh...AIC. Thx. Clipwrap = $50.00 -- I will do a comparison--
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I have a the trial version of ClipWrap and my friend sent me the original files off of the camera. I can play the 1080i60 no problem.

Now when I put the mts file in ClipWrap that is 1080p60, if I choose AIC I only get an audio file. No video. If I select the option to rewrap with no conversion it opens up, but the screen is blank. I want to convert the original file that 1080p60 to AIC 1080i60 so I can edit it.

How did you get ClipWrap to convert the file properly to AIC? I get nothing but an audio file only if I do it that way.

Thanks.
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