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Old Jan 25, 2004, 3:18 AM   #31
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Based on what I see here, the T1 remains high on my list of cameras to consider when I purchase a mini camera in the next few months. I'm looking for something I can stick in my pocket for those moments with the kid or carry around in my briefcase full time. I go into this knowing that these cameras have certain limitations and trade-offs... you just have to be smart in knowing when to use them. BTW, I don't consider the noise in the sky to be a huge issue. Having spent many years as a photographer I see no difference between that and higher grain levels when going to the more sensitive higher-ASA films. So unless something else is announced at the upcoming PMA show that knocks my socks off, I will be owning one of these.
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Old Jan 27, 2004, 11:31 AM   #32
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Actually, I think the LCD is great, one of the best things about it. Something else I haven't mentioned, is that the videos -- if taken in good light -- are extremely good.

As to why I'm pointing out the various attributes: so that people know what to look for and, especially, to give reviewers things to test so they can decide for themselves. Better than have people disappointed later on. I don't understand people who make critical remarks either pro or con for something they have never used.
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Old Jan 27, 2004, 11:37 AM   #33
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Oops -- that last post was intended for another forum. No idea what happened.
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Old Jan 27, 2004, 11:41 AM   #34
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Old Jan 27, 2004, 11:45 AM   #35
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Actually, I think the LCD is great, one of the best things about it. Something else I haven't mentioned, is that the videos -- if taken in good light -- are extremely good.

As to why I'm pointing out the various attributes: so that people know what to look for and, especially, to give reviewers things to test so they can decide for themselves. Better than have people disappointed later on. I don't understand people who make critical remarks either pro or con for something they have never used.

Technique really doesn't come into it. I'm taking pictures under the same circumstances as I've done in the past and reporting what happens: good results before; troubled results now. I'm now thinging of getting the Panasonic LC1, which should be good for fast action low-light.
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Old Jan 27, 2004, 4:01 PM   #36
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The Panasonic LC1 will be released on spring this year,
but it's too big compared to the T1. It has fast
F2.0 lens though for good low light pictures. One other
thing that made me decide to sell my T1 was because
the blurring effect and shake also occur at daytime when
zoom is used. I was taking picture with 1/40 sec shutter
at a view at daytime, when I used the zoom, it turned
to 1/25 sec shutter and the image has blurr. This is
about 4:30pm in the afternoon. 1/30 appear to be
the minimum to prevent shake. I hope they release a
T2 with the following feature and I'd buy it.

T2 wish list:

1. Faster lens like F2.8 or F2.5

2. With full manual Aperture Priority and Shutter Priority

3. With larger flash. The present T1 is useless for
group picture as such picture is usually more than 5
feet in distance (to accomodate all). The T1 only good
for close up like taking pictures of portraits or
painting.

4. With tripod thread, the present T1 is useless for low
light because the only way you can prevent shake is
by looking for flat surface and putting it there. However,
you can never adjust the angle and flat surface with
the target view in front is not easy to find. You can also
risk letting it fall like putting on the edge of the base of a
street lamp.


The pentax optio 555 fulfill all of the above and it has
5X optical zoom. Unfortunately, the lens have to extend
out unlike the T1 with built in mechanism. But at least
you can still put the Optio 555 inside the pocket. You
can never do it with the Panasonic LC1 and taking
pictures in public with this very big lens can sure attract
some onlookers. And in malls where it is prohibited to
take pictures, you can end up in the security office
or end up being snatched specially if you accidentally
took pictures of gang members like the Mafia or Yakuza.

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Old Jan 27, 2004, 10:37 PM   #37
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I agree with your points. It is not a good idea to use the
zoom except in excellent light because of the problems you mention.

I do prefer a small camera, but good images are more important, which is why the LC1 may be appropriate. I do not usually make myself liable to arrest when taking pictures!!!
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Old Jan 27, 2004, 10:51 PM   #38
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One other thing: look what happens when there is any motion in the above pictures. Blur. A high proportion of my low-light pictures involve people or vehicles moving, and the T1 just can't handle such situations. I did not adequately consider the speed of the lens before making the purchase, and wish I had. The extra liability to camera shake of this model doesn't help.
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Old Jan 28, 2004, 8:14 AM   #39
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http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-...?msg_id=0076x2


Didn't you see the picture of the panasonic LC1 above.
It's so big! And it costs about $1500! The V1 (which
is not pocketable) is even smaller than it.

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Old Jan 28, 2004, 10:45 AM   #40
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I wanted a small camera, but sharp low-liht pictures are
more important to me, and if the LC1 will do the trick, it's
worth getting...
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