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Old Sep 8, 2004, 4:33 PM   #1
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Just when I thought I had firmly decided on the W1, I madde the mistake of looking a the V1.

It has more features, more manual control and a lot more stuff. BUT, it is a little bigger, the flash is a pop-up and slightly ill-placed and the battery life is much lower compared to the other cameras (as i read in a couple of reviews).

So, how much better is the V1 than the W1? Is it even that much better? Is it worth spending the extra cash, or is the W1 a great enoughcamera with more functions/capabilities than one could ever want anyway?

Help, because I can't keep going on like this!:?

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Old Sep 8, 2004, 5:35 PM   #2
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You may want to check out the preview for the V3 which replaces the V1 and comes out in late October. It has a better positioned flash and better battery life.
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Old Sep 9, 2004, 3:43 AM   #3
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Thanks.

I had a litlle look at the V3 previews. I don't think i'll be considering it though - probablygoing tobe out of my price range, it seems quite a bit larger than the others and generally more features than i need now.

So it is still between the V1 and W1 - I'm leaning towards the W1 though - cheaper, smaller, better placed flash, longer battery life. So what I'm really asking is that is there anything about the V1 that really trumps the W1, or is there really not that much difference?

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Old Sep 9, 2004, 4:45 AM   #4
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Martin,

When I was looking to upgrade earlier this yearfrom a 3MP compact to a 5MP compact with more featuresI hada V1 on home trial for a weekend.

I took it to an outdoorevent andcaptured about 100 shots. I though the image quality was excellent, my impression is that it will slightly better the W1 images in all circumstances.

The flash range was better than many of the smaller compacts. However I found, like other reviewers, that I kept holding down the pop-up flash by accident and wondering why it hadn't fired.

The manual facilities were fantastic in the amount ofchoices for a keen/specialist photographer. However the operation of these features has added some extra buttons to the camera back which I found a nuisance to use compared with the "standard" Sony compact camera operation which has been more or less the same for a while now across the range.

I found battery life quite short which would mean the purchase of a second InfoLithium battery straight away.....add that into the camera purchasebudget at the outset. Also I hated the fact that the battery charges in the camera as standard. For me it was essential to budgetfor a Sony stand-alone charger so I could have the spare charging without taking the camera out of use to do it.

Overall I chose not tobuy the V1with its bulky size/shape and added complication of operation...plus the extra costs of spare battery/charger made it a pretty expensive item.

In the end I bought a 2003 model P12 outfit which was pretty much the same status then as the W1/W12/P100/P120 arenow.

4mths on I do not regret one bit going for the morecompact model and giving up the ultimate manual options. My camera is small enough to carry every hour of every day and I'm getting pleasing results....in the end that is all that matters.

Can you get yours from a place that has an exchange policy? Having home trialled 5 cameras from 2suppliers I would never ever risk getting something that couldn't be swapped.

Even after all the questions and reading up you can have the thing home for five minutes and find something that you really can't put up with.


Hope that helps.



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Old Sep 9, 2004, 5:09 AM   #5
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To me there is really a huge difference between the V1 and W1.

W1 is point & shoot wheareas v1 is stays closer to professinal. V1 has many features of 717.

Image quality and sharpness of V1 is obviously superiror to W1.

Manual shooting of V1 is more functional than W1. In manual mode of W1 you have only 2 possible choces to set the aperture (2.8 or 5.6 in wide angle).

Hologram Laser AF Assist system is another great feature of V1.

V1 has 4x optic zoom whereas w1 has 3x.

V1 has the nightframing and nightshot features.

The W1 seems more adventagueous in only some tiny issues like:
- smaller size
- aa batteries
- bigger lcd (althogh you should note that both havethe same123.000 pixels)
- price
- newly designed menu item views
- 30 fps movie (V1 captures 16 fps)

These are my highlights and of course there may be other pros and cons for each camera which i dont remember now.

My final recommendation: If manual shooting is important for you definitely think of the v1. If not, be sure that it will be in a few months

Hope my opininons will be helpful for you..
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Old Sep 9, 2004, 6:41 AM   #6
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tanaltan,

You put the point stronger than I have today but as a matter of interest in that past I've answered similar queries with my thought that the V1 and W1 could never suit the same person.

If you want variedshooting options then you *have* to get the V1. If you want a handy family point & shoot then the cost/size/complexity is a complete waste.

And I don't want to get into a who is right or wrong argument (fell foul of that too much in another what camera thread!) but have to speak of my personal experience on extra modes.

I'm an ex SLR photographer of 25yrs pluswho used to have every possible option available on my camera plus a bag full of lenses, flash and various gadgets.

Yes ideally I would like a shutter priority mode on my compact digitalcamera but frankly in 1600 images with this current one, and over 2000 images on my previous digicam I haven't hardly ever wanted extensive manual modes.

I must say my photographs are mostly of a "record" type rather than "arty" and I find manymodern digicams, backed up with slightPC tweaks if required, are pretty amazing in getting good to excellent results 99% of the time on auto.

The "extras" I use (over and above the camera straight out of the box)are a tripod sometimes, a monopod rarely, a slave flash in more than 50% of flash images. In ten days of holswith superb photo opportunities the other week I used exposure compensation for a couple of shots, spot focus for afewand Sports mode for a couple more. Other than that the other240+ excellentimages came home all on auto.

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Old Sep 10, 2004, 9:50 AM   #7
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I had a litlle look at the V3 previews. I don't think i'll be considering it though - probablygoing tobe out of my price range, it seems quite a bit larger than the others and generally more features than i need now.
I just saw the V1 on special at Newegg.com for $410 (+ $1.99 shipping), if that's of interest to anyone...
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