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airbrushjohn · Jun 12, 2007, 10:41 AM

i had just got home from seaworld and the owner of the local spanish paper called me to come take some pics for him. which was pretty cool. these are night shots so i used iso 1600. which as you can see have alot of noise, i am on a computer that doesn't have neat image installed. so i just cropped these.

airbrushjohn · Jun 12, 2007, 10:42 AM

another

airbrushjohn · Jun 12, 2007, 10:42 AM

another

airbrushjohn · Jun 12, 2007, 10:43 AM

last one

Mark1616 · Jun 12, 2007, 11:26 AM

John, considering the horrible conditions and low shutter speeds you were working at you have done a really good job and the last one works really well..... you sure are learning!!!!

JohnG · Jun 12, 2007, 11:55 AM

The first shot is the only one that doesn't cut the mustard - the others are all good. The last one is VERY good.

Now excuse my ignorance of the rules - is the line considered 'in' or 'out' (last picture)?

Trojansoc · Jun 12, 2007, 12:20 PM

Terrific shots, particularly the last one.

And John, in answer to your question, soccer is one of the few sports in which the position of the player is irrelevant in determining boundary questions. To be "into touch" or "out of bounds," the entire ball must cross the touch line, or side line. Thus, the player could actually be completely over the line and the ball still be in play as long as the ball doesn't cross.

airbrushjohn · Jun 12, 2007, 12:49 PM

hi mark,

thanks! i am trying, but i won't be satisfied until i get them razor sharp like you,

you have really helped me undertsand quite a bit at a very fast pace!

hi johng,

thank you, i know the first one is way out of sorts!

hi trojansoc,

thank you! i really don't understand alot of the rules of soccer yet!

also, mark and johng i have a question about raw versus .jpg i didn't know if i should ask in this section.

DRGSin · Jun 12, 2007, 12:52 PM

Yea, Ill echo the others...nice job under poor conditions. Toss that first one out and the rest are keepers, esp the timing on the last shot. Well done!

Mark1616 · Jun 12, 2007, 12:58 PM

I never shoot RAW for sports only important portraits/weddings where I can't afford to get anything wrong and RAW can pull it back.

There might be an argument for trying RAW in horrible conditions as you were in and try slightly under exposing to get a faster shutter speed but I'm not 100% convinced.

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Jun 12, 2007, 11:26 AM	#5
Mark1616 Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7,456	John, considering the horrible conditions and low shutter speeds you were working at you have done a really good job and the last one works really well..... you sure are learning!!!!

Jun 12, 2007, 11:55 AM	#6
JohnG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,529	The first shot is the only one that doesn't cut the mustard - the others are all good. The last one is VERY good. Now excuse my ignorance of the rules - is the line considered 'in' or 'out' (last picture)?

Jun 12, 2007, 12:20 PM	#7
Trojansoc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hot Springs, AR Posts: 3,724	Terrific shots, particularly the last one. And John, in answer to your question, soccer is one of the few sports in which the position of the player is irrelevant in determining boundary questions. To be "into touch" or "out of bounds," the entire ball must cross the touch line, or side line. Thus, the player could actually be completely over the line and the ball still be in play as long as the ball doesn't cross.

Jun 12, 2007, 12:49 PM	#8
airbrushjohn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 747	hi mark, thanks! i am trying, but i won't be satisfied until i get them razor sharp like you, you have really helped me undertsand quite a bit at a very fast pace! hi johng, thank you, i know the first one is way out of sorts! hi trojansoc, thank you! i really don't understand alot of the rules of soccer yet! also, mark and johng i have a question about raw versus .jpg i didn't know if i should ask in this section.

Jun 12, 2007, 12:52 PM	#9
DRGSin Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 574	Yea, Ill echo the others...nice job under poor conditions. Toss that first one out and the rest are keepers, esp the timing on the last shot. Well done!

Jun 12, 2007, 12:58 PM	#10
Mark1616 Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7,456	I never shoot RAW for sports only important portraits/weddings where I can't afford to get anything wrong and RAW can pull it back. There might be an argument for trying RAW in horrible conditions as you were in and try slightly under exposing to get a faster shutter speed but I'm not 100% convinced.