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Old Apr 16, 2004, 8:55 PM   #11
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Your stuff looks good..

Here is stuff I did with the 160s + 383 setup..
BTW it is NSFW


http://www.pbase.com/castledude/strawberry
http://www.pbase.com/castledude/andrea_1
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Old Apr 17, 2004, 9:21 AM   #12
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Hey Castledude... thanks for the kind words on my work. It's been a little frustrating working with zero lights, but I've been happy with what I've been able to pull off so far.

You're obviously taking the same equipment path I need to though. The lighting on your stuff is definitely what I need. And nice work too! One question, what's the setup for the white background? Also the EXIF data on pbase is very helpful. Thanks a ton and keep up your good work. (I think I'll go back to strawberry when I have more time - hehe)

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Old Apr 17, 2004, 10:08 AM   #13
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Hey Castledude...! One question, what's the setup for the white background?
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I was able to borrow some seamless white paper for that shot. That was actually shot in a guys garage. The paper was suspended with bugee cords and a long piece of PVC pipe.

It works great but is a pain to transport. Using muslins and then photoshopping them is easier.


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Hey Castledude...! Thanks a ton and keep up your good work. (I think I'll go back to strawberry when I have more time - hehe)

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That's why I posted them...
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Old May 4, 2004, 8:53 PM   #14
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Ok well I know I got better as the day went, but I haven't had time to edit even 1/4 of the shots, so here are a few samples from my first attempt at using any kind of lighting. You may recall I went with Alien Bees, let me know what you thinnk:








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Old May 5, 2004, 12:53 PM   #15
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Nicely done...

I'd run #1 and #3 through a sharpening filter (it really cleans up the hair on the lh side of the pic). This is just a web thing printing should look good without the sharpening.

#2 seems a little soft around the arm on the left hand side. It looks to me like your main was a little hot for that spot. What ends up happening is that her flesh becomes translucent and it gives it aslightly blurry look.

Don't know what kind of umbrellas/softboxes you were using but for the low shots you need either distance or softer lights. The highlight in her eyes shows that was the direction of the main and you might want to try it with the fill next time.Either that or get more distance so you can spread the light more. A few other tricks are to use white shoot through umbrellas as an umbrella (this gives you a bigger spread like a flash bounce with about 15% of the strobe power). Worse case is to take the hit with somebody that pale and drop down an fstop.


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I'm being overly critical to help all three of these shots show a lovely young lady and would be great in her portfolio.

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Castledude,

No by all means be critical I need the feedback. Actually I did a little photoshop on the skin & may have overdone it ... Ithink that might have been the soft spot, although the light may have been too bright. It was a very small room, I had all I could do to get any distance between. You're right though on the shoot through or softbox. They are nexton my list. I was thinking of the Photoflex multibox unless you have another recommendation...

Oh and I couldn't help turning the lights down a bit & going for a more intimate look: Any good?

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Old May 5, 2004, 4:33 PM   #17
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Very nice indeed... (sorry had to try one of the new icons)

I like this one... I would probably go in in Photoshop and tweak her leg color a little bit (to make them more pink like her facial tones).

The brown pillow doesnt photograph well (velvet is hard to do). Get a brush and do circular or randomsweeps on it to make is look like a pattern rather than a smudge.

But the lighting to me is great..

Working in a small room can be a challengeespecially with the distortions you get from wide angle lenses.

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Personally I use a Wecott Halo for my softbox. The Photoflex unit is great but does take a little bit of time to install/remove/pack.

The Halo is like an umbrella and just opens up, when shooting in a small space you can close it down to give yourself a little walking room. Your standard lightstand will probably not hold a softbox (wrong CG).

I tend to use real softboxes in a rental studio where I don't have to set them up. I have not yet played with the internal grids yet.

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Now its the fun time practice, practice, practicenow you will have to look at all the aspects of the scene before photographing it. This is just something that time does. Watching for her hand position, knowing when to ask the model to arch,pull in her stomachin ( I hit a cuss filter when I tried the standard term), seeing the pillow behind her, etc. There is a Zen to it when it all comes together.
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Old Jun 6, 2004, 4:43 AM   #18
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I agree with Peter. When photographing kids, the last thing you want is heat to agitate them, and too many distractions. All the photos bar one on this page...

http://www.panphotography.com/index....at&fil=275

...were taken with either available light, and or ONE bounced flash with fill in (Metz CL-4).

Just follow the kids around in their own environment and fire at will. A decent lens with wide-open capabilities is a must for indoors. Manipulate a bit in photoshop and who needs studio lights? I do have a set I use for interiors and portraits of adults and groups, but I think for kids, you can´t beat ambient lighting!



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Old Jun 6, 2004, 8:23 AM   #19
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Wow, castledue, just when you thought it was safe for your kids to go online to a perfectly respectable photography site to learn the trade, up pops a load of photos of some (Not so pretty) slappers with ALL their bits out!!! Whilst I am by no means prudish, I think there are other sites more suitable for your work!

Steve, how about a bit more restraint on your normally excellent site. I don´t want my kids coming home from school logging on to learn about what daddy does, to see some old sort giving herself a bit of "pleasure"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I see you had a good rapport with Mr Dagger, can either of you show me work that you have had published anywhere? If you want to see how to do serious nude/glamour shots worthy of publication, go to http://www.hertz-ladiges.com/and check out Gruizza´s gallery. You have a lot to learn. Your stuff really is just "Get some models (Ahem!), buy camera and cheap lights, throw it all up in the living room, and take some dodgy photos." I am sorry, but even the composition, backgrounds and props etc., are aweful. There is a fine line beween what you do and porn, if the latter is what you want, go to the relevant forums. Why not pop back when you have done it properly? And if you think I am going over the top, look at the reason for this thread....CHILD/BABY PHOTOGRAPHY!!!! Christ!
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Hey Freefly, lighten up... 1) everyone starts somewhere. 2) Why don't you post some of your "own" stuff instead of referencing someone else's work before acting so Pompus. 3) Have a look and go away:










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