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Old Mar 10, 2005, 12:31 PM   #1
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I thought I posted this earlier but I must have done something wrong.

I have 2 tripodsand while I was trying to save money they are junk.

Now I am not a photographer by any means but I do want to get a better tripod and this one seems like it has a bunch of features that I would like but I am concerned about if I can take Panoramas with it.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...324&is=REG


I do not take lots of panoramas but do not want to eliminate that possibility.

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Old Mar 10, 2005, 6:15 PM   #2
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I do not believe the head in question has a separate panning lock. So, that would mean you need to be extremely careful when repositioning to only move along the single axis. If panning or panarama shots are important to you I would suggest a ball head with a separate lock (488RC# series has it).
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Old Mar 10, 2005, 9:10 PM   #3
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first of all what are we using as a camera?

your choice of tripods is an excellent start though that particular type of ball head will not function as a pano base without another component added which is a panning base. the 3021Pro is a highly versatile tripod. i just sold mine and went up to the carbon version the 055MF3.

it is regretfull that manfrottos strong point are their legs but not so for their heads

i personally would purchase the tripod to start and look at a reasonable ballhead witha a panning base. there are quite a few on the market from various manufactures. they can range the sub $100 to well over thr $500. the best ones are in the $280- $450. manfacturers like RRS, Acratech, Kirk, Markins, and Arca-Swiss are the masters in the field. thes are all precision manufactured components. these also support the arca swiss type of QR clamp system that is pretty much the defacto standard in the SLR market
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Old Mar 10, 2005, 9:21 PM   #4
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... I have 2 tripods and while I was trying to save money they are junk.
No one ever believes that will happen, and it always does. I have two sitting at the back of a closet as well - though one of them was a $5 garage sale unit.
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Now I am not a photographer by any means but I do want to get a better tripod and this one seems like it has a bunch of features that I would like but I am concerned about if I can take Panoramas with it.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=353324&is=REG

I do not take lots of panoramas but do not want to eliminate that possibility.
I don't know that tripod, but you shouldn't have any problems getting the center post vertical. That is much easier if there is a level on the legs. Couldn't tell from the photo, but couldn't tell that the Gitzo Explorer does have a level.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=206491&is=REG
The center post sjms mentions at http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/v...77&forum_id=73 looks like it would be a good addition if you are serious about shooting panos.

I assume you already know about parallax and buying/building a pano head.
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Old Mar 10, 2005, 9:34 PM   #5
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first of all what are we using as a camera?

your choice of tripods is an excellent start though that particular type of ball head will not function as a pano base without another component added which is a panning base. the 3021Pro is a highly versatile tripod. i just sold mine and went up to the carbon version the 055MF3.

it is regretfull that manfrottos strong point are their legs but not so for their heads

i personally would purchase the tripod to start and look at a reasonable ballhead witha a panning base. there are quite a few on the market from various manufactures. they can range the sub $100 to well over thr $500. the best onesĀ* are in the $280- $450. manfacturers like RRS, Acratech, Kirk, Markins, and Arca-Swiss are the masters in the field. thes are all precision manufactured components. these also support the arca swiss type of QR clamp system that is pretty much the defacto standard in the SLR market
sjms is absolutely correct in his recommended list of excellent ball heads; but the Manfrotto 488RCx isn't exactly 'chopped liver'. I won't pretend that it is as silky smooth as the Arca-Swiss, but for less than 1/4 the price it is very good value for money.

I recommend that you try to find samples of these candidate ball heads at a local pro- photo shop and see for your self what would best suit your needs.

If you are going to be using an SLR with 'big glass' (fast/ long lens) then you probably would be best served with the Arca-Swiss/RRS/Markins class head as you can have better control of the heavy cantilevered load of the lens. If you have lighter (or shorter) lenses, then the 488 may be more your ticket.
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the 3021Pro has a bullseye level built in like this 055MF3



3 little bubble levels all in a row
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Jaws said- I recommend that you try to find samples of these candidate ball heads at a local pro- photo shop and see for your self what would best suit your needs

it is unfortunate that you will find it very difficult finding most of those names in shops

RRS is sold only byRRS and there is an approx 6 week wait for their head. (design/machine shop)

http://www.reallyrightstuff.com

Kirk like RRS is sold only by Kirk (design/machine shop)

http://www.kirkphoto.com

Markins- made in South Korea (don't even snicker.they makea mean ballhead. i have one). a reverse engineered Arca Swiss ballhead reduced size and weight by 30%. sold in the US and Canada by markins america out of Ontario

http://www.markinsamerica.com

Arca-Swiss made in gee Switzerland. sold at shops like B&H photo

manfrotto ballheads

http://www.bogenimaging.com

acratech ultimate ballhead

http://www.acratech.net


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I have 2 tripods and while I was trying to save money they are junk.
which ones (and why don't you like them)? please help others (like me) learn from your mistakes....
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Old Mar 11, 2005, 9:14 AM   #9
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I really appreciate all the input and while I am sure what you say is correct.

I have myself in a corner as I have 3 other setups, (monopod - Tabletop tripod and a window mount) that all have the RC2 QR adapter and plate and would like to stay with that at least for now.

Is it possible to get the panning plate as a seperate item? (Seems like that could be a good idea if not)

I really like the Idea of that 322RC2Ball head but , is the 488RC easy to use, and /or is this a pretty good pan and tilt.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...653&is=REG

Oh and to go to a Photo store I would have to drive into Pittsburgh and I would rather get a tooth pulled.
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any ballhead is easier to use with the caveat that you get one that supports the weight of the gear your using without creeping.

i would personally rather have 4 consecutive root canals done the use a pan and tilt again. to me there are no advantages to them.
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