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Old Apr 8, 2005, 11:16 AM   #1
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Hi all,

I wish I would have seen this tripod forum two weeks ago. Well, a two weeks agao, I ordered a Trek-Tech TrekPod because I thought I wanted a walking stick, monopod, and tripod combo. After taking a nature photography course, my needs have changed so I am returning the TrekPod. See the below thread for details:

http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/v...76&forum_id=10

I want a tripod that can get low tot he ground (12" or less) and has a tilting center pole. Right now, I have my eyes on a Gitzo G2220 (the G2227 is too expensive!). However, I really like the magnetic quick release of the TrekPod. So, I lan to get Trek-Tech's MagMount tripod head to use on the G2220.

I don't have very heavy equipment so my Panasonic FZ20 and Sunpak 383 flash should cause any problems for this setup. Also, the magnetic part of the TrekPod didn't seem to cause any problems with SD cards or the camera.

Has anyone tried this or a similar combination?

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Old Apr 8, 2005, 2:18 PM   #2
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there are other options

the gitzo g2220 weighs in at 4.9lbs and $219

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...491&is=REG

a little bit less dextrous is the manfrotto 3001pro weighing in at 4.2lbs and $113

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...610&is=REG

and then there is the CF version of the 3001pro with a kick the 190MF3 or 4 at $249 and $265 respectively and weigh 3.5lbs

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...682&is=REG

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...683&is=REG

all the manfrottos i have shown here can allowtripod 0"height and the lateral arm works very well to. theyin some waysoffer greater versatility and accessories the the gitzo for a better price.

i myself have the 055MF3 and a gitzo g2228

all areoutstanding for macro.



on the magnetic ballhead--- not with my cameras. i go with what stays in place all the time.


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Old Apr 8, 2005, 6:45 PM   #3
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Completely agree, I just can't see putting 4k$-6k$ of equipment on a head that doesn't have a solid mechanical latch, and safety lock.

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Old Apr 9, 2005, 2:47 PM   #4
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sjms,

I appreciate your suggestions. But, I don't think I would be satisifed with a tripod where the center pole could only go vertical or horizontal. I think I want to be able to angle it as well. Or am I missing something due to my lack of experience?

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Old Apr 9, 2005, 8:05 PM   #5
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yep you might. you then put the post on lateral and between 2 of the 3 legs and raise that third leg to go either in out or swing to the other angles to finish off the arc. you will need to do the on the 2220 too forbalance depending on the camera/lens weight and extension. the only limiting factor is your imagination. listen i own both the 2228 (carbon version of the 2220) and a 055MF3 i can do just about every macro move with each the same using a ballhead. i generally use the sigma 150mm 2.8 macro with a minimun working distance of 38cm from the film plane on either a 1D2 or a1Ds2 thus giving me working room and my subject if needed breathing room. in addition i am getting a rack focus setup from RRS in the next few months. you name a usable position that the gitzo and i can do it with the manfrotto. in addition it maybe even easier.

http://www.pbase.com/crusader/image/41839031/original

http://www.pbase.com/crusader/image/41839908

http://www.pbase.com/crusader/image/41839963

http://www.pbase.com/crusader/image/41840066oh the gitzo can't do that

http://www.pbase.com/crusader/image/39141627can be done easily with both

any angle you throw either one into will require either a counterweight/counterbalance so it won't flip on you. 95% you will find it at perpendicular to get a close up either high or low. intermediate angles are very rare.

in the long run the only limits are your ability to do 3Dvisual geometry.







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Old Apr 9, 2005, 11:10 PM   #6
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OK, I think I got it. So with the center pole in the lateral position, I can set the tripod to the height that I want. Then use the ball head to set the vertical angle for the camera. OK, that makes more sense.

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you can also change the angle of the lateral ctr post by increasing or decreasing the opposite leg as i did in this shot to put both at the approx the same angle. thus giving you gross (using the legs)and fine adjustment (using the ballhead)

http://www.pbase.com/crusader/image/41839031

note the length on the back leg.

look i'm not going to say either one is perfect.what i amgiving you are options across a price and technology spread that are within what i believe is your price point spread. in the long run they all will do the job and well once you learn their and your capabilities and limits.

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All things being 'equal' between the 055MF3 and the G-2227, weight, min & max height, lateral posts capabilities etc. I did notice the following pro & cons.

1) 055MF3 load capacity 15.5 lb(7 kg), G-2227 13.20 lb(5.99 kg).

2) 055MF3optional spiked feet (34.95$), G-2227 none (reports of legs slipping on floors with heavy load).

3) 055MF3 low angle adapter, G-2227 center column must be tilted.

4) 055MF3 299.95$, G-2227 469.95$ (170.45$ diff @ B&H)

5) Both take the 555B leveling post.

On first impressions my heart was set on getting the Gitzo but it seems Manfrotto is winning this one.
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Old Apr 25, 2005, 10:36 PM   #9
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Hi all,

Well, my Gitzo G2220 should be here tomorrow, Wednesday. I ordered it from B&H last Wednesday before they closed for Passover. I also I have a Trek-Tech MagMount waiting for me to pick up at the front office. I'll report back about how things go. I won't be able to really to put the combo to the test until the first weekend in May. In the meantime, I will be playing with the setup learnig what the G2220 can (or can't) do.

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Old May 16, 2005, 9:27 PM   #10
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OK, I've had the Gitzo G2220 and the MagMount for a couple of weeks now. At first, I thought I had made a mistake. I didn't see how to mount a 1/4" head on the 3/8" tripod stud. Then I figured out how to reverse the mounting screw on the G2220 revealing the 1/4" screw end.

The MagMount comes with silver and gray mounting adapters that connects to the camera's tripod hole. Then the camera mounts on the magnetic head plate. The gray adapter forms a stronger bond with the magnet so it is used for heavier camera setups. There is also a safety clip that helps the mount to hold better.

So far, so good. I am very happy with the setup. It is easy to lift the camera off the mount for a quick release. Yet, the magnet seems to be storng enough to hold the camera in place. How good is the ball head? So far, it stays tight when I tighten the screw lock enough. How well will the ball wear? I don't know. Time will tell.

One nice thing is that with the ball head locked down, I can still turn the camera on the magnet plate to do panning shots. Yet, when I tilt the center pole to a horizontal position and turn the camera (a Panasonic FZ20) at an angle, the camera will stay in place.

I also like the Gitzo Explorer G2220 tripod. It is very flexible. I like the bubble dome level on the center pole clamp. I still want to get a level that fits on the MagMount head. I ordered a few extra silver mount adapters so I could keep one on each of my cameras. I can put a silver adapter on the secondary level as well.

That's all for now. Any questions or comments are welcome.

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