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kezs Apr 14, 2006 1:39 PM

so, I'm between these two. I currently have a film nikon n65 with some gear - a 28-80, a tamron 70-300, a 1.4x tc, sb-27 speedlight, su-4 remote speedlight trigger, but I can sell most of it for a decent price here in brazil.

so I'm kinda stuck. oly offers great lenses (14-45 and 40-150) for the price I'd get the d50 plus a 18-70 (the 18-55 that comes with the d50 seems lousy). oly has 8mp and a self-cleaning sensor to avoid dust. nikon has the brand name, accessories... good performance at high iso. I'd get 630mm equivalent with the d50 and what I have...

I don't know. I know I can't really go wrong with either... but I still have to pick one. any hints? :?

edit: oh, and one more thing: has anyone here had the experience of buying refurbs?

mtclimber Apr 14, 2006 2:09 PM


I can probably give you a unique viewpoint. I am a Digital Photography Instructor for our state university and I own both the Olympus E-500 and the Nikon D-50. Owning two DSLR bodies is very convenient. I keep the Zukio 14-54 lens on my E-500 most of the time and basically use it for shots below ISO 400 and for macros. I also own and very much like the 40-150mm lens as well.

In contrast, I use the D-50 for high ISO shots and and long zoom shots. I have a Sigma 30mm F1.4 lensthat I use on the D-50 doing ISO 1600 shot with great images. That is something that would be out of the question for the E-500.

IMHO, and based on a single camera philosophy, I think that the D-50 will give you a much wider variety of shots.


kezs Apr 14, 2006 3:25 PM


that's a pleasant coincidence. thanks for your insight.

how useful is the self-cleaning thingie on the e500? and do you occasionally miss the extra 2mp when you're using the nikon? what about the lcd on the oly, is it much better?

those are the main advantages of the e500 over the d50... :|

mtclimber Apr 14, 2006 3:32 PM

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Yes, the ultra super sonic wave guide cleaner on the E-500 reduces cleaning by 20 to 30% but it does not eliminate it. But please keep in mind that I also change lenses quite often when producing teaching materials.

No, there is not a huge difference between the 6mp and the 8mp images. I staged a sample photo for you. Here is a 100% crop of an image taken with the D-50 using my Sigma 30mm F1.4 lens. It was handheld at taken at ISO 800 in our living room.

kezs Apr 14, 2006 3:40 PM

handheld, 100% crop, iso 800? that's impressive! :O

and much of the extra pixels on the e500 are due to the 4:3 ratio, so there isn't a huge difference in the horizontal pixel count.

thanks, mate. I'm strongly leaning towards the d50 right now...

algold Apr 14, 2006 5:24 PM

mtclimber wrote:

...Here is a 100% crop of an image taken with the D-50 using my Sigma 30mm F1.4 lens. It was handheld at taken at ISO 800 in our living room.
MT, D50 is a great camera, but the EXIF info for your image shows:

shutter priority, 1/500", F1.4, ISO 200 and the flash was fired - with these settings it's not a problem to take a handheld shot. Probably, you've just posted the wrong image.

Yours, Alex

mtclimber Apr 14, 2006 9:08 PM

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You are entirely correct Algold, I posted the wrong photo. I apologize. I was in a hurry to leave to teach a class, andI simply rushed too much. Here you go.


kezs Apr 14, 2006 10:32 PM

yeah, I was wondering how a 100% crop could be wide like that. still, really impressive! :)

I wonder how good the kit 18-55 is...

mtclimber Apr 14, 2006 10:45 PM

Luckily I still had some Nikon lenses, so I just bought the body only. I have never used the Nikkor 18-55mm lens. Instead, I have a Nikkor 18-70mm lens that was the kit lens for my D-70 before I sold the body. The last sample was done with the Sigma 30mm F 1.4 lens that just arrived today.


kezs Apr 14, 2006 11:03 PM

my first thought is to get the d50 plus the 18-70... but that's selling for like 330 bucks, whereas the 18-55 comes for an extra 100 on the kit. oh decisions, decisions :)

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