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If we presume your very narrow interpretation of what she said, then yes. But an ILC with a kit lens wouldn't serve that purpose any better than a superzoom P&S. At the wide end, the lens on the H300 is faster than a kit lens for an ILC, and that kit lens gets dimmer a lot faster as you zoom, than the lens on the H300. So as far as the lenses are concerned, the ILC is actually at a disadvantage. And while the larger sensors in ILCs would be less noisy, the 20MP sensor in the H300 would make the noise it has less obtrusive. So even with your best argument, image quality might actually be a wash. And again, that's presuming your very narrow interpretation of what she said.
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Hey, there, SilverUnicorn;
If you are still following this, could you tell use what your BF is using for a camera now? Camera phone, or something a little bigger? Do you know if he has any brand preferences? Since you say he is interested in photography, he may already have some ideas of his own. Get him talking on the subject and you may find out more details. If it is the technical aspects that interest him, you should probably look for something with good manual controls. brian |
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Really?
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And as for Wernher von Braun, not that his prior associations would invalidate what he had to say about engineering and science, here are a few more from the Wikimedia Commons: ![]() ... with Walt Disney. ![]() ... with US Army Generals. ![]() ... with 5 of the original 7 Mercury Astronauts. ![]() ... with President Dwight D. Eisenhower. BTW, I just sold Von Braun's autograph, along with John Glenn's, Neil Armstrong's and Buzz Aldrin's, at auction for almost $2,500. I doubt I'm the only one that thinks he's a notable individual. JOOC, is this how you typically argue? ... by accusing others of arguing with you?
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Listen you're trying to argue your way out of it but only a "narrow interpretation" of family gatherings excludes low light scenarios. Give it a rest an honest interpretation includes low light situations. Quote:
Let's talk about Von Braun during war time, a time during which he acknowledged, in writing after the fact, that he personally selected workers for Mittelwerk, where they built the V-2 rockets, from camp inmates at Buchenwald, a concentration camp. Some 20,000 slave labors died at Mittelwerk building Von Braun's V-2. People he personally saw with his own eyes and picked to be subjected to slave labor in deplorable conditions until they could no longer work and were summarily executed. Some how 20,000 dead slave labors on your hands out weighs standing next to Walt Disney. I can find pictures of KKK members next to important people too. Much like your flawed negative logic above, posing with someone who is good does not make you good. But hey maybe that's just me, maybe you look up to people who've knowingly participated in crimes against humanity leading to the death of 20,000 people. You can white wash it all you want but to me Von Braun's accomplishments after war time do not outweigh his actions during war, we could have gotten to the moon without him and should have. I hear there's a huge market for Nazi memorabilia too for other people willing to white wash the past with misconceptions.
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I've repeatedly and respectfully agreed with your recommendation of a super zoom for someone who has no plans to grow and needs good reach. I've also repeatedly explained why other options would be good ones and pointed out that the superzoom you recommend filled a need that wasn't explicitly expressed. I'm done, the floor is yours TCav
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I generally don't participate in these "What Camera Should I Buy" topics. I just saw you recommend an old, outdated 9MP Panasonic ZS40(TZ50), and thought I'd suggest a newer, more capable camera. It was then that you suggested a refurbished ILC, and you jumped all over me when I mentioned that a refurbished product wouldn't be a good choice for a gift.
I'm certain that you feel more comfortable with your version of history, but there happens to be a paper trail for mine.
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Your response on my suggestion of stretch for an ILC, seems you were jumping on me, replying to my response to SilverUnicorn: Quote:
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And yes at that point I did respond directly to your attitude and question your motivations as it was clear that you were unwilling to accept that an ILC could be an option and point out that nothing in the SilverUnicorn's requirements pointed to a superzoom. From there semantic arguments ensued and you defended a war criminal. Yes maybe I jumped on you but I certainly didn't jump first. Putting all that aside I find your signature quoting Von Brahn offensive, he's a war criminal responsible for 20,000 deaths and should not be celebrated, I'd like you to take it down out of respect to those 20,000 dead
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P.S. Out of the most recent 12 posts with replies you've participated in 8, or 2/3 of the threads, seems you do participate in a majority of these "What Camera Should I Buy" topics.
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I still maintain that the ILCs you suggested, refurbished or not, wouldn't serve the OP's boyfriend any better than the H300, and your steadfast defense of your suggestion in the face of evidence to the contrary, followed by your ad hominem attacks on me, are what dragged this topic into the muck.
I also continue to maintain that a refurbished camera is not an appropriate gift, but I rely on the OP to determine that for herself. And you belaboring the issue doesn't serve any of us well.
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