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Nizidramanii Sep 28, 2005 9:00 PM

I have been exhaustively searching the internet (mostly dpreview, Steve's Digicams, and this forum) trying to decide what digital camera to get. I want to get a camera that will last me a long time, take quality pictures, and have plenty of features for me to grow into. My current camera is a PowerShot A60. It has served me well for the last year, but now it has stopped working. I can sometimes get 1 shot off before it tells me that my fresh batteries are dead and shuts itself off.

I've decided on a few features that I really want in my next camera:

Swivel LCD for self/group portraits and/or a remote control shutter release.

5+ megapixels

Very high image quality

A decent zoom (4x or more)

Tough body material, preferably metal

Fast autofocus/shutter release

Long battery life

Quality 640x480 movie record mode

Very flexable all around

Price < $500

And some options that I like, but don't need:

Compact Flash card (I just like them better. Easier to handle, tougher, larger capacity.)

Good movie record (640x480)

Wide angle lense

Magnified portion of screen for manual focus

Here are the pros and cons of the two cameras in my eyes:

Canon S2 IS Pros:

- Long zoom. I think this would allow me to take some really awesome shots

- Unlimited 640x480 30fps video.

- Image stabilization

- Great looking camera

Canon S2 IS Cons:

- SD memory card

- Plastic body (is it very tough?)

- 36mm wide angle zoom

- No remote? (is there a remote for this camera?)

- Minor things like focus searching, loose lense cap, etc

Olympus C-7070 Pros:

- Excellent image quality

- Metal body

- Compact Flash

- Fast

- Remote control

- Wide angle lense

- Cheaper!

- Bigger image sensor

Olympus C-7070 Cons:

- 4x Zoom (Some sites say 5x...)

- Ehrm... that's all I can think of.I thinkI just made up my mind...

What do you folks think? Any suggestions of a camera(s) that would suit my needs? I have already ruled out the C-8080 for the high price, low availability (has it been discontinued or something?),and lack of a swivel LCD (somehow my LCDs always get scratched. I'd like for mine to be stored with the LCD protected). I also ruled out the Panasonic FZ30 for it's super high price and (from reviews) image quality issues.

If I could see some side by side shots taken by the S2 IS and the C-7070 that would be nice. It would also be helpful to me if I could see what kind of difference the zoom ranges on each camera make. 4x might be enough for me, but I don't know what that looks like.

Oh boy, this has gotten long...sorry about that.

I hope you guys can sway me one way or another here! This is turning out to be a very hard decision for me. I look forward to your thoughts!

Shanti Sep 28, 2005 9:29 PM

Ihave the c-7070 so my suggestion is biased, butI got to sayI have ben very happy with c-7070, excelent image quality, great features, the swivel LCD is great. low noise even at 400 ISO (or at least bearable) excelent battery life ( around 500+ shots per charge) its not that heavy, and excelent 4x(28-110mm) zoom ( ok so i would probably like a better zoom, but its ok) in overal if I had to choose from the S2 and the c-7070I would definitly go with the c-7070 again.

the only downside for the c-7070 is the f/stops 2.8 - 4.8, i wish it was a constant 2.8 but oh well can't have everything :P


lucky2505 Sep 29, 2005 5:17 AM

There is a wide angle converter and two teleconverters available from Olympus for the C-7070. The wide angle converter takes the lens down to 19mm. The 1.7X teleconverter takes the lens to 187mm. The 3X teleconverter takes the lens to 330mm. You might want to look at the Konica Minolta A200, also.

Nizidramanii Sep 29, 2005 7:06 AM


I can't believe that I overlooked the A200. That camera has almost every single feature that I'm looking for! Even a remote is included! The only problem that I can see is the hefty price tag and the images just don't look as good as the Olympus images.

Right now I'm thinking that a good option would be go get the 3x telephoto lense with the C-7070, like you said.

Where do you think the prices of these cameras are going to go in the next few months? You would think that "down" would be the only answer, but I was suprised to see the price of some actually go UP.

Nizidramanii Sep 29, 2005 7:09 AM


Thanks for your views on the C-7070. The battery life is very appealing to me, since my Canon A60's battery life has gone down to 0 and it is quite fustrating. Batteries for the C-7070 seem to be quite cheap as well.

pana2005 Sep 29, 2005 9:56 AM

The Oly C-7070 is a running- out model.
It is no longer available, at least in Germany


Nizidramanii Sep 29, 2005 12:53 PM

Why is it running out? Is it being discontinued?

pana2005 Sep 29, 2005 2:40 PM

Yes, it shall give another, yet unknown model.

I've telephoned 4 sellers in 3 different cities and I've got the same answer.


Nizidramanii Sep 29, 2005 6:49 PM

What do you think I should do? Get it now or see what they replace it with?

pana2005 Sep 30, 2005 8:23 AM

I think that you must decide for yourself.

You can buy this camera (perhaps on Internet), because it is really a good camera.
If you have this camera and there should come a better one, this would be annoying.
If you haven't this camera and the new cameras are worse, this would be annoying, too.

I think that it could be a problem with Olympus (great loss last year, some factories are closed, especially in Japan), too many different series (FE, SP...) .
The competion is very hard.

Perhaps Olympus will have a similar fate like Kyocera??

pana2005 Sep 30, 2005 12:14 PM

I think that is really a wrong business-decision of Olympus to phase out the C-series and to replace it with the S-Series.

The cameras of the C-Series were too good for a market, which changes very quickly, I think.


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