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Congratulations,rjseeney-
I am with you 110%. There is no so called ideal DSLR, or even a P&S camera, only the camera that feels right in your hands, and that takes the photos that you like, might be the ideal camera for you. Please take a look at the attached photo. You will find, if you pull up the EXIF data that it is an existing light photo taken inside, with no flash using a LESS than $200 P&S camera. As you have often said, the quality of the photo has more to do with the photographer than the camera. We can argue, excuse me, debate with active posters who have never owned a DSLR camera, endlessly, but at the end of the day or the end of the thread, it is all about the photo, IMHO. But in the final analysis, it might have a good deal more to do with technique, than the camera. What do you think? MT |
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Pixel Peepers of the world unite - and then go start your own forum where you can quote stats all day long. I'm with Sarah, lets go get some pictures.
My advice to those of you who are looking for a dSLR, they are all just excellent picture takers, now go try some on and if it fits wear it home. Right now ergonomics is probably the biggest factor left. Each brand has its particular claim to fame so choose based on what fits your purpose, what fits your budget and, as I already said, what fits your hands. And then go take some pictures. Ira |
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Yes it is all about the technique, good lighting, learningthe quirks of the bodies and lenses we choose. In the right hands some of the so called junk lensescan be taught to perform well. A great lens makesthe job easier and maximizes a photographer's options and opportunities. |
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Friends, sorry about interrupting your interesting discussion but I would like to ask second tele-lens for pentax.
1.Sigma Zoom Telephoto 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO DG Macro Autofocus Lens for Pentax AF 2.Pentax SMCP-DA 50-200mm f/4-5.6 ED Auto Focus Telephoto Zoom Lens 3.Sigma Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 DG Macro Autofocus Lens for Pentax AF SLR 4.Tamron Zoom Wide Angle-Telephoto AF 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR LD Aspherical IF Macro Autofocus Lens for Pentax 5.Pentax Zoom Telephoto SMCP-FA J 75-300mm f/4.5-5.8 AL Autofocus Lens Actually, after doing some reasearch I narrowed my choice to #1 and #2. Which one is better? |
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I can live with that :idea:
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Those reviews and tests are subjective. Code:
You can't do reasonable comparisons because there are too many variables that go into the final image, many of which have little to do with the camera body itself (the lens, post work, even the monitor YOU are using to read/look at the review). They also uses standard 50 mm prime lenses for testing out dSLRs. (Stopped down to the optimal sharpness values). All the cameras were treated the same with the same softwares etc... Code:
Sure you can get an idea, but the differences are minute. Code:
And certainly, if you read enough reviews, you will see conclusions proclaiming each camera to be the best. Code:
Just look at the cover of Pop Photography every month. Most users will never be able to (or even want to) get the very best out of it, and are more than most people will ever need. All of this coupled with the fact that most users are fanatical about their gear, and it's easy to see why the water is so muddy. Usually I will believe the review if it has some sort of a detailed test with it where I can judge myself. I will only believe the reviewer if he have test results to back his statements up. Code:
I still say you must go out and handle each camera to see how it feels and how easy it is for you to use. A camera that is uncomfortable or not easy to use will not get used often. Reviews cannot tell you how a camera feels to you, and neither can I. The differences really are minute...every experienced user that frequents this forum has said this (many, many, many times). At this level of camera, results depend on the user, not the camera. And what is easiest to use (for you, not the reviewers) will yield the best results. Most reviews if not all states that the Nikon dSLRs are comfortable and well build with a nice grip. Sometimes they might even say things like "Puts the Canon Rebel XTand PentaxdSLR to shame" I know that is OPINION (And unnecessarily harsh), but I certainly think it was plenty informative enough to tellme a message about Nikon dSLRs (build quality/design). Can it get more obvious that that? Same thing with the other dSLRs as well. If the camera was stated to be comfortable and pleasant to use (By a majority). It will most likely be comfortable and pleasant to use or operate. No matter what, the review will always be the first to provide me with the initial first impression of the camera. I will always start with dpreview, then imaging resource, and so on. Imagine coming across a review that states some issues with a camera (It can be anything), don't you think that itwill beworth noting the issue? Reviews are nonetheless; very helpful. (At least to me). Code:
We can argue, excuse me, debate with active posters who have never owned a DSLR camera, endlessly, but at the end of the day or the end of the thread, it is all about the photo, IMHO. But in the final analysis, it might have a good deal more to do with technique, than the camera. What do you think? Yeah? That is why it is very important for anyone to get a camera or dSLR that fulfills his or hercriteria. You Pentax or Minolta owners have most likely probably gotten what you had wanted, so no complains there. |
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First off: *sigh* ...
Sorry in advance, but I really need to vent here. ok, now: Quote:
Can't afford one? Well then face the facts and buy yourself a good camera to take photographs with. And here's an update: every entry level dslr in the market today is a good camera. All you really need to find, is the one you're most comfortable with. The Romans had a saying: "Qui vult caedere canem, facile invenit fuftem" "Whoever wants to beat a dog, easily finds a stick to do it" You're always going to find flaws in a camera. That's simply because we don't live ina perfect world. All of this time reading reviews you should be out there, with your camera in hand and capturing what only your eye can see. Trust me, you've done your research, you know all the facts & figures. Now start taking photos. The choice is up to you, are you going to be a "DSLR-owner" or a photographer? TDN |
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