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shoturtle Oct 20, 2010 9:20 PM

i know the 70-300 form tamron, it is the best of the budget lens, but it does not compare to the pantax dal 55-300 form 200-300mm. The tamron is really soft form personal experience. The pentax 55-300 is much sharper. That is why in none kit form DA 55-300 is 370 dollars.

mrpete Oct 20, 2010 10:10 PM

Wow, I googled a bit and you are indeed correct. In my ignorance I assumed that the 55-300 was just another kit zoom. Please forgive me. :) I am very aware of the softness issue on the Tam from 200-300mm, but I didn't know of any better lenses for that price.
The one thing (I believe) the Tamron has on the Pentax is it's 1:2 macro ability. It will suffice for me in that regard until I get to getting a dedicated macro. Plenty sharp at 200mm for insects and such.
I still would like to put in a word for Sony though. It is often ignored and they do make nice cameras, although we STILL need a real a700 replacement.
Oh, and I find my 50mm f1.7 much more useful than my 70-300mm. Although one does need a tele, I love how I can get indoor shots with decent speed at ISO 800. Plus it is good for portraits, so if you want to do a lot of family indoor stuff you may want to go for faster lens instead of a zoom. So brand aside, consider that.

Ooo, I just became a senior member. Woohoo!

shoturtle Oct 20, 2010 10:15 PM

there is a simple solution for macro. Almost 1:1 add a canon 500D close up lens to the 55-300 and you get a hell of a good macro lens. It is a 80 dollar add on with the 58mm thread. The pentax a 2 lens kit form is the best value in regards to lenses. Nothing else will come close to it for the price.

shoturtle Oct 20, 2010 10:27 PM

This is why I said the 55-300 is such a good lens, I shoot it every now and then

mrpete Oct 20, 2010 10:32 PM

I agree it that package looks awesome. Although he should still consider brand..... But it looks like Pentax wins this one.
Hmm, I always thought those 'wide angle adapters' and 'macro filters' were gimmicks to inflate package prices. Are those actually cheap ways to get effects that are, while not as good quality if course, cheap alternatives to whole lenses? It would be way easier for me to try a WA adapter for $50 than shelling $400 on a sigma 10-20.

shoturtle Oct 20, 2010 10:45 PM

the cheaper ones are not as good but the canon 500D is a very good one. I would not use anything lower grade on a dslr lens. The raynox work okay with megazooms and point and shoots. But for the big sensor dslr and 4/3. The canon is the way to go. Here is what you can do with a long zoom and that lens.

mrpete Oct 20, 2010 10:56 PM

Awesome pics (especially for 300mm). Makes me wish I had more than a Tammy 70-300. Although that's what the Sig 70-200mm f2.8 is.

Off topic: how do you bike-transport your camera? I am always afraid of falling and smashing it. I'd ask in the bird photo thread*but it is dead and I am no necromancer. :) Just one quick answer and then we'll let the OP get back to business.

shoturtle Oct 20, 2010 10:58 PM

I use a point and shoot most the time. Or I use a small sling pack, and wear it up front, as most falls you end up on your back.

John.Pattullo Oct 20, 2010 11:05 PM

do they do a wide angle variant - i would like to try some fisheye shots but dont think for what i want i justify buying a fisheye lens and the ones i've seen on amazon and ebay look decidely dodgy

shoturtle Oct 20, 2010 11:14 PM

Canon does have the WC-DC58B in couple of thread sized the 58mm is 150. I have not tried it.

But I would not put the lower end wide angles on a dslr lens. The canon uses better glass and are much higher quality.

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