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dx90 · Jun 23, 2006, 5:28 AM

Out of these two cameras what one is the better for taken pictures of fast birds in flight and why?

I have been looking at the Canon EOS 350D but they don't say Digital Rebel XT on the camera like I've seen in some reviews so how do I know its a Rebel XT or not?

tmoreau · Jun 23, 2006, 9:13 AM

EOS 350D = Digital Rebel XT

Same camera

dx90 · Jun 23, 2006, 9:27 AM

Do you know why some have Rebel XT on and others don't?

tmoreau · Jun 23, 2006, 10:08 AM

I think its for different markets, minolta did that... Maxxum 5D in USA / Dynax 5D everywhere else.

rey · Jun 23, 2006, 10:58 AM

It's all marketing. It's Rebel XT in the US, and I think 350D in most other places. In Japan it's marketed as "Kiss". It's sold as "soft as a Kiss" in Japan, while Americans want a more rugged "Rebel" name.

Kinda like Americans will not pay too much for a "Toyota", but slap a "Lexus" name to it and they're sold.

PeterP · Jun 23, 2006, 11:46 AM

Unfortunately neither, for your requirement of "fast birds in flight".
The AF system in those cameras is not up to the task of tracking fast moving small objects.

You can still get good results by doing pre-focusing and hitting the shutter button just as the target reaches your focus point.

Birds are a tough subject in general as they are mostly both small and fast. For flight shots a 300mm or 400mm lens would be the minimum entry.

Look up some of the bird specialists on this forum (Erics, DBB, NormCar) and see what they use and do to get their shots.

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Out of these two cameras what one is the better for taken pictures of fast birds in flight and why?

bobbyz · Jun 23, 2006, 1:05 PM

You need fast AF with ability to track objects and fast frame rate for flight shots. XT only gives 3fps, not sure about D50. I would suggest atleast 20D so you get 5fps. 1dMK2 is the best tool for this kind of shooting.

RacingManiac · Jun 23, 2006, 1:22 PM

you could do it with smaller lens if the oppotunity is right....this seagull is trying to fly into the wind and it was practically stalled....shot with a 135mm lens, which on my KM 5D it was about 200mm focal length after crop factor..

Webapprentice · Jun 23, 2006, 5:17 PM

Nikon D50's continous frame rate is rated at 2.5fps. I've shot a slow moving bird in flight and was able to "freeze" it, but I doubt I could do it a faster flying bird.

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You need fast AF with ability to track objects and fast frame rate for flight shots. XT only gives 3fps, not sure about D50. I would suggest atleast 20D so you get 5fps. 1dMK2 is the best tool for this kind of shooting.

musicarvind · Jun 30, 2006, 5:35 AM

Check this picture of an eagle flying in langkawi, malaysia. taken with Nikon D70. absolutely stunning.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/176661566/

credit to its owner at flickr.com.

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Jun 23, 2006, 5:28 AM	#1
dx90 Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 24	Out of these two cameras what one is the better for taken pictures of fast birds in flight and why? I have been looking at the Canon EOS 350D but they don't say Digital Rebel XT on the camera like I've seen in some reviews so how do I know its a Rebel XT or not?

Jun 23, 2006, 9:13 AM	#2
tmoreau Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 477	EOS 350D = Digital Rebel XT Same camera

Jun 23, 2006, 9:27 AM	#3
dx90 Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 24	Do you know why some have Rebel XT on and others don't?

Jun 23, 2006, 10:08 AM	#4
tmoreau Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 477	I think its for different markets, minolta did that... Maxxum 5D in USA / Dynax 5D everywhere else.

Jun 23, 2006, 10:58 AM	#5
rey Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 949	It's all marketing. It's Rebel XT in the US, and I think 350D in most other places. In Japan it's marketed as "Kiss". It's sold as "soft as a Kiss" in Japan, while Americans want a more rugged "Rebel" name. Kinda like Americans will not pay too much for a "Toyota", but slap a "Lexus" name to it and they're sold.

Jun 23, 2006, 1:05 PM	#7
bobbyz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,423	You need fast AF with ability to track objects and fast frame rate for flight shots. XT only gives 3fps, not sure about D50. I would suggest atleast 20D so you get 5fps. 1dMK2 is the best tool for this kind of shooting.

Jun 30, 2006, 5:35 AM	#10
musicarvind Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 101	Check this picture of an eagle flying in langkawi, malaysia. taken with Nikon D70. absolutely stunning. http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/176661566/ credit to its owner at flickr.com.