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Old Jul 30, 2007, 12:11 AM   #11
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Hi Philgib I have done as you asked the only way to get a live image via tv is to switch on live view then whatever the camera see it outputs it to tv. you can take pics this way but of course using live view there is the normal approx 1 second delay whilst the mirror moves, focusing occurs and the shutter works. hope this helps !
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Old Aug 9, 2007, 9:54 AM   #12
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Thanks a lot Naper, you have been very helpful to me as this is a very important issue to the specific type of photography I intend to do.


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Old Aug 10, 2007, 10:08 AM   #13
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Canon, no doubt about it.
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Old Aug 11, 2007, 10:21 AM   #14
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I have tried both the Canon XTi and the D40 and I found the D40's images to be superior at least at full Auto. Of course, you don't buy a DSLR to use it on full Auto, but there are times when you may. I used full Auto on both just to test both cameras in that mode and found the XTi's images to be terribly underexposed vs. the D40's. There is a thread about this issue of underexposed shots with the XTi at dpreview.com. Some members state that they had to return their XTi's to Canon for adjustment or repair and then their photos were much improved. But I do not want to spend $800.00 + on a camera only to have to return it to the manufacturer to get the image quality I want and expect. I want excellent image quality straight out of the box, even at full Auto. Am I asking to much?

If you are interested in reading more about underexposure problems with the Canon 400D XTi here are some links from the Canon SLR forum at dpreview.com:





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Old Aug 11, 2007, 10:24 AM   #15
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TCav wrote:
I completely agree with Bob Nichol. The number of focus points won't increase the sharpness of the images; it just increases the chance that the camera will focus on an off-center subject.

But there's another issue I would like to bring to your attention. One of the great advantages Canon and Nikon dSLR users have over the rest of us is the abundance of available lenses for their cameras. But that isn't true of the D40 or the D40x. Those dSLRs don't have an internal autofocus motor like other Nikon dSLRs, so most of the lenses that work with other Nikon dSLRs won't work with the D40/D40x. Only about a quarter of Nikon's lenses, and about a third of Sigma lenses will autofocus on the D40/D40x, and none of Tamron's or Tokina's lenses will.

The Nikon lenses that will work with the D40/D40x are fine, reasonably pricedlenses, but the Sigma lenses are some of their more expensive choices. If you can get along with the smaller list of available lenses, then the D40x is a fine choice, but you should know about this limitation before you buy it.
Here is a list of lenses that will work with the D40:
AF-S DX 12-24mm 4.0G ED-IF
AF-S 17-35mm 2.8D ED-IF
AF-S DX 17-55mm 2.8G ED-IF
AF-S DX 18-55mm 3.5-5.6G
AF-S DX 18-70mm 3.5-4.5G ED-IF
AF-S DX 18-135mm 3.5-5.6 ED-IF
AF-S VR DX 18-200mm 3.5-5.6G IF-ED
AF-S 24-85mm 3.5-4.5G IF-ED
AF-S VR 24-120mm 3.5-5.6G ED-IF
AF-S 28-70mm 2,8 IF-ED
AF-S DX 55-200mm 4-5.6G ED
AF-S VR 55–200mm 4–5.6G IF-ED
AF-S VR 70-200mm 2.8G ED-IF
AF-S VR 70-300mm 4.5-5.6G
AF-S 80-200mm 2.8 ED-IF
AF-S VR 105mm 2.8G
AF-S VR 200mm 2.0G ED-IF
AF-S VR 200-400mm 4.0G ED-IF
AF-I 300mm 2.8D IF-ED
AF-S 300mm 2.8D IF-ED
AF-S 300mm 4.0D ED-IF
AF-S VR 300mm 2.8 ED-IF
AF-I 400mm 2.8 D IF-ED
AF-S 400mm 2.8D ED-IF
AF-I 500mm 4.0D IF-ED
AF-S 500mm 4.0D ED-IF
AF-I 600mm 4.0D IF-ED
AF-S 600mm 4.0D ED-IF

10-20mm 4-5.6 EX DC HSM
12-24mm 4.5-5.6 EX DG HSM
14mm 2.8 EX
17-35mm 2.8-4.0 EX DG
18-50mm 3.5-5.6 DC HSM New
30mm 1.4 DC
50-500mm 4.0-6.3 EX DG
50-150mm 2.8 EX DC HSM
55-200mm 4-5.6 DC HSM New
70-200mm 2,8 EX DG Makro
80-200mm 2.8 EX DG Makro
80-400mm 4-5.6 EX OS
100-300mm 4.0 EX DG
120-300mm 2.8 EX DG
150mm 2.8 EX DG MAKRO
180mm 3.5 EX DG MAKR

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Good Morning, Justinian-

It great to hear that your test is going well. Yes, I had something of the same experience, although it was not quite so pronounced. In the end I got the Nikon D-40, after determining that I really did not need 10mp.

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Old Aug 11, 2007, 5:01 PM   #17
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Justinian wrote:
Here is a list of lenses that will work with the D40:


Here is a list of lenses that will work with other Nikon dSLRs but that won't work with the D40 or the D40x:


14mm f/2.8D ED AF Nikkor
16mm f/2.8D AF Fisheye-Nikkor
18mm f/2.8D AF Nikkor
20mm f/2.8D AF Nikkor
24mm f/2.8D AF Nikkor
28mm f/2.8D AF Nikkor
35mm f/2D AF Nikkor
50mm f/1.4D AF Nikkor
50mm f/1.8D AF Nikkor
85mm f/1.4D AF Nikkor
85mm f/1.8D AF Nikkor
105mm f/2D AF DC-Nikkor
135mm f/2D AF DC-Nikkor
180mm f/2.8D ED-IF AF Nikkor
18-35mm f/3.5-4.5D ED-IF AF Zoom-Nikkor
24-85mm f/2.8-4D IF AF Zoom-Nikkor
28-80mm f/3.3-5.6G AF Zoom-Nikkor
28-105mm f/3.5-4.5D AF Zoom-Nikkor
28-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED-IF AF Zoom-Nikkor
35-70mm f/2.8D AF Zoom-Nikkor
70-300mm f/4-5.6G AF Zoom-Nikkor
80-200mm f/2.8D ED AF Zoom-Nikkor
10.5mm f/2.8G ED AF DX Fisheye-Nikkor
60mm f/2.8D AF Micro-Nikkor
200mm f/4D ED-IF AF Micro-Nikkor


15-30mm F3.5-4.5
20-40mm F2.8
24-60mm F2.8 EX DG
24-70mm F2.8 EX DG
28-70mm F2.8 EX DG
28-70mm F2.8-4 DG
28-300mm F3.5-6.3 DG
70-300mm F4-5.6 DG MACRO
70-300mm F4-5.6 APO DG MACRO
135-400mm F4.5-5.6 DG
170-500mm F5-6.3 DG
300-800mm F5.6 DG
15mm F2.8 EX DG
20mm F1.8 EX DG
24mm F1.8 EX DG
28mm F1.8 EX DG
50mm F2.8 EX DG
105mm F2.8 EX DG
17-70mm F2.8-4.5 DC MACRO
18-50mm F2.8 EX DC MACRO
18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DC
18-200mm f3.5-6.3 DC OS
800mm f5.6 EX DG
500mm f4.5EX DG
300mm f2.8EX DG


11-18mm F/4.5-5.6
17-50mm F/2.8 (American Photo Editor's Choice 2006)
18-200mm F/3.5-6.3
18-250mm F/3.5-6.3 (American Photo Editor's Choice 2007)
55-200mm F/4-5.6
17-35mm F/2.8-4
28-75mm F/2.8
28-200mm F/3.8-5.6
28-300mm F/3.5-6.3
70-300mm F/4-5.6
70-200mm F/2.8
200-500mm F/5-6.3
90mm F/2.8
180mm F/3.5
24-135mm F/3.5-5.6
28-80mm F/3.5-5.6
75-300mm F/4-5.6
14mm F/2.8


16-50mm f/2.8 AT-X Pro
50-135mm f/2.8 AT-X Pro
12-24mm f/4 AT-X Pro
100 f/2.8 Macro AT-X Pro
10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 AT-X (American Photo Editor's Choice 2007)
80-400mm f/4.5-5.6 AT-X

And this does not include the vast quantity of discontinued lenses available on the used market that will work with other Nikon dSLRs but that won't work with the D40 or the D40x.
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 6:40 PM   #18
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For the time I discovered that this forum and this post existed, I already had bought the 400D. One of my collegues has the D40X and I had the opportunity to play with both, in similar conditions.

I totally agree with the first reply:

"Both are fine creative tools capable of excellent results when properly handled. Emphasis on the properly handled!"

You will probably have to decide it with a coin this time.
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