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po8tick · May 23, 2006, 3:00 AM

I have no instructor at the moment, I dont begin school until Fall, August...

only thing holding me back from the Canon 30D is I wont have or wont be able to afford good lenses... im really against getting a damn good camera and sticking it with a piece of crap lenses..

getting a ferrari but putting a 1996 keo engine in it.. just absolutely wrong imho... I know eventually I will be able to affford the lenses.. but in the meanwhile I will be teasing myself and im not that sadistic or masochistic... :P

oh well, I'll see how long I can hold out from making a hasty purchase.

May 23, 2006, 9:24 AM

Any of the mentioned dSLR bodies will 'handle' low light.

The issue is to get as much light as possible THROUGH THE LENS onto the CCD.

You need a large aperture !!

Start with a 'normal' 50mm f1.7 (about $100 new)

You can get good quality used lenses (eg. minolta HS AF 80-200mm f2.8 APO for about $900)

{i am personally biased by a lifetime of minolta use, but, the KM 5D or 7D ( i use and 'swear by' the 7D)with built in the body antishake is very good}

the attached was shot with a cheap 28-100mm f3.5-5.6 'kit lens' on my 7D

Log · May 23, 2006, 5:39 PM

honestly if you dont have a lot of photographic experience you wont notice the difference much between an $1500 or $300 lens right now... so id suggest when the time comes get a good lens... but dont automatically think you need the best of the best.. then save up after getting through the learning curve of these cameras... you cant just jump into DSLRS and think your going to be a pro... so take the speed down a notch and get a decent fast lens and go from there... like i said... dont get in over your head and not know where to go once youve sunk $2000 into this... learn the camera like the back of your hand... then start progressing your lenses...

If anyone thinks im wrong on this... please correct me...

Logan

po8tick · May 25, 2006, 11:25 AM

True enough and thank you everyone for your replies.

still undecided though as to which body atleast

I want to figure out the body and get a lens kit to start off minimum than.

May 25, 2006, 6:16 PM

KM 7D with Minolta Maxxum28-100mm f3.5-5.6lens - hand held - no flash

po8tick · May 25, 2006, 10:59 PM

those "grains" is what you guys call "Noise"?

May 26, 2006, 1:43 PM

yes, with a dSLR they look just like 'pushed' film

another:

May 23, 2006, 9:24 AM	#12
bernabeu Guest Posts: n/a	Any of the mentioned dSLR bodies will 'handle' low light. The issue is to get as much light as possible THROUGH THE LENS onto the CCD. You need a large aperture !! Start with a 'normal' 50mm f1.7 (about $100 new) You can get good quality used lenses (eg. minolta HS AF 80-200mm f2.8 APO for about $900) {i am personally biased by a lifetime of minolta use, but, the KM 5D or 7D ( i use and 'swear by' the 7D)with built in the body antishake is very good} the attached was shot with a cheap 28-100mm f3.5-5.6 'kit lens' on my 7D Last edited by bernabeu; Jun 27, 2015 at 4:24 PM.

May 25, 2006, 6:16 PM	#15
bernabeu Guest Posts: n/a	KM 7D with Minolta Maxxum28-100mm f3.5-5.6lens - hand held - no flash Last edited by bernabeu; Jun 27, 2015 at 4:24 PM.

May 26, 2006, 1:43 PM	#17
bernabeu Guest Posts: n/a	yes, with a dSLR they look just like 'pushed' film another: Last edited by bernabeu; Jun 27, 2015 at 4:24 PM.

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May 23, 2006, 3:00 AM	#11
po8tick Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11	I have no instructor at the moment, I dont begin school until Fall, August... only thing holding me back from the Canon 30D is I wont have or wont be able to afford good lenses... im really against getting a damn good camera and sticking it with a piece of crap lenses.. getting a ferrari but putting a 1996 keo engine in it.. just absolutely wrong imho... I know eventually I will be able to affford the lenses.. but in the meanwhile I will be teasing myself and im not that sadistic or masochistic... :P oh well, I'll see how long I can hold out from making a hasty purchase.

May 23, 2006, 5:39 PM	#13
Log Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 394	honestly if you dont have a lot of photographic experience you wont notice the difference much between an $1500 or $300 lens right now... so id suggest when the time comes get a good lens... but dont automatically think you need the best of the best.. then save up after getting through the learning curve of these cameras... you cant just jump into DSLRS and think your going to be a pro... so take the speed down a notch and get a decent fast lens and go from there... like i said... dont get in over your head and not know where to go once youve sunk $2000 into this... learn the camera like the back of your hand... then start progressing your lenses... If anyone thinks im wrong on this... please correct me... Logan

May 25, 2006, 11:25 AM	#14
po8tick Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11	True enough and thank you everyone for your replies. still undecided though as to which body atleast I want to figure out the body and get a lens kit to start off minimum than.

May 25, 2006, 10:59 PM	#16
po8tick Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11	those "grains" is what you guys call "Noise"?