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Old Mar 3, 2007, 2:39 AM   #1
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I have useda Olympus C4000 for around 4 years now. The results have been ok, but now it's time to move on and enjoy a better quality camera.

Having read various reviews and opinions I am strongly considering a Nikon D200. The main usage would be in peoples homes under challenging lighting situations. I do appreciate that the choice of lens is also a major consideration and for me the wide angle aspect is of great importance. I have visited the Nikon website and the 17-35mm f/2.8D ED-IF AF-S Zoom-Nikkorlooks very impressive for both wide angle and zoom. However, this particular lens is very expensive and I hope that there are more affordable options available.

I understand very little of the technical data thatI read and so much goes totally overmy head. What I hope to achieve is a good quality DSLR that takes great photo's under challenging lighting situations, with agood wide angle facility, for around a grand.

Any advice for this "digital dummy" would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks...Paul.
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Old Mar 3, 2007, 5:48 AM   #2
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Camera and good lens for about a grand?

Possible, but not a D200. If someone is offering that camera at a price much less than $1500, I wouldn't give them a credit card number. The camera body alone runs $1500. Something would have to be fishy with a deal like that.


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Old Mar 3, 2007, 11:04 AM   #3
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Wide angle can be tough on digital. 17mm gives about a 26mm equivalent in 35mm film. That's wide but not very wide. Going wider than that can mean a bit less quality, higher price, and/or having to shoot at f4-5.6 rather than being able to shoot at f2.8 (or better).

Will you be unable to use flash or external light in these situations, or is it really necessary to use natural light?

Will these shots include people or anything else that might move, or are they shots of still subjects, like just the interiors of the homes themselves, where you might be able to use a tripod and longer exposure?

And is that budget for camera and lens, or just the camera? The D80 might be good at that price for just the camera, but if its for both, you may need to look at entry level bodies, as you may need to spend as much on the lens as the body.


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Old Mar 3, 2007, 12:10 PM   #4
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. . . a good quality DSLR that takes great photo's under challenging lighting situations, with agood wide angle facility, for around a grand . . .
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Nikon D50 with a Tokina 12 - 24mm f4.

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Old Mar 3, 2007, 12:12 PM   #5
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Hi,

Thanks for the reply. I have found the D200 for $479.00 here http://www.bestpricecameras.com/prod...?prodid=362469and there are several other sites offering the D200 for less than $500.00. Are you saying that they might not be 100% ?

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Old Mar 3, 2007, 12:26 PM   #6
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http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Infiniti_Photo_3

http://donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/h0178.htm

http://donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/h0218.htm

http://donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/h0057.htm

http://donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/h0058.htm

http://donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/h0200.htm

It's been a while since I found a store with a zero rating. Granted, it was based only on a couple of inputs, but it's hard to rate a business that moves around so much.

Do you really think that someone can sell you a camera for 1/3 the price that everyone else is seling for and be legitimate?

Save your money...

http://www.steves-digicams.com/best_cameras.html

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Old Mar 3, 2007, 1:21 PM   #7
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Hi kenbalbari,

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Most of the work will be for home interiors with no people or moving objects. Flash and any available lighting within the house could certainly be used, as could a tripod. An ultra wide zoom is not a necessity, I just wish to increase the width of my photographs to capture more of the room......hope that makes sense.

I have been reasonably happy with the Z4000, but I can tell the difference between my photographsand those of others who use DSLR cameras.

My proposed $1,000 budget was originally for the body and lens, but I am beginning to realize that I may need to spend more.
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Old Mar 3, 2007, 1:38 PM   #8
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Hi The Hun,

Thanks for your advice, will give them a wide berth. It's difficult to ignore certain companies that are offering such bargains, here is another one http://www.ccicameracity.com/nikond200.htmland their ratings seem good.

I guess that I either take a chance, revise my budget or investigate a less expensive alternative.

Many thanks...Paul.


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Avoid this etailer. I don't know what their tricks are, but you will not get a D200 for $419, unless you have a revolver and steal it from someone walking out of a camera store.

Go here for legit prices: http://www.pricegrabber.com/p__Nikon...69/search=d200

I like http://www.buydig.com Others have difference preferences.

The D200 is a very nice camera. However, I think you would be just as happy with the D80. In fact, it is probably better for low light shooting.

If you really want to stay under $1,000, consider the Canon XTi or the Pentax K10D.
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Old Mar 3, 2007, 5:42 PM   #10
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Paul,
I think you got some good advice from fastglass above.

I would look at an entry level body like the D40 or D50. The D40, however would limit your future lens choices, as far as autofocus, especially since it's possible you would also have an interest in wide angle primes. So the D50 is the better bet. The Tokina 12-24 f4 lens suggested would be a good choice (and is one lens that wouldn't autofocus on the D40). But there is also a Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6 that might be equally good.

A good general purpose lens would be the Tamron 17-50 f2.8. That would take you just a bit wider than your current camera. Another might be the Nikon 18-135 f3.5-5.6. But you might just prefer to get the kit lens package and add good super wide angle like those mentioned above.

If you aren't currently using a tripod, you should. If you are, you will want to check that it is capable of handling the weight of a DSLR.

Other things which you could consider which could significantly improve your results are lighting and software for post processing. DXO Pro Optics is one that is interesting because of it's ability to correct distortion and vignetting which can be common in wide angle lenses.

http://www.dxo.com/en/photo/dxo_optics_pro

Figure something like:
D50 body $500
Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6 HSM $470
DXO Optics Standard $150

Some good lens reviews can be found here:
http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/index.php
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