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Old Jun 11, 2007, 1:11 PM   #1
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hi

I couldnt decide which oneis better.what is your opinion?

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Old Jun 11, 2007, 4:09 PM   #2
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They are both fine cameras.

How did you narrow down your selection to these two cameras?

How do they feel when you hold them?

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Old Jun 14, 2007, 9:31 PM   #3
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I am having the same problem trying to decide between the Canon XTI, Canon D30 or Nikon D80. At the present time we have a Canon A80 which works great, but our two granddaugthers are to fast for it now.

I was thinking about the D40x, but a lot of the reviews say spend a little more and go with the D80 if you are going with Nikon. Both D40X and D80 are 10.0 , but have problems with dust from what they say, and not auto focus bodies.

The XTI is a 8.2 and has a dust cleaner and auto focus. The Canon D30 is a 10.0 and the cost is higher the Nikon D80.

The len for the Canon 28-135 and the Nikon can be bought with a 18-135.

I firgure that one len would fix my needs. The more reviews I read, the more confuse I get. Need to decide soon, new grandson arrives in July.
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Old Jun 14, 2007, 10:01 PM   #4
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The Canon XTi DSLR camera has 10mp.

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Old Jun 14, 2007, 10:14 PM   #5
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arncel wrote:
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Both D40X and D80 are 10.0 , but have problems with dust from what they say, and not auto focus bodies.
The D40x is not an "autofocus body". The D80 is.

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The XTI is a 8.2 and has a dust cleaner and auto focus.
The XTi is 10MP.

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The more reviews I read, the more confuse I get. Need to decide soon, new grandson arrives in July.
Maybe you should go to a camera shop and handle the cameras yourself. See how they feel. If you are not comfortable handlinga camera you bought, you won't use it as often as you might, or you won't enjoy using it. Forget everything else, and go out and handle some cameras.

And, unless you go to a real camera store, don't ask the salesperson any questions. When you ask salespeople questions, you're telling them that you think they're smarter than you. That starts you off at a disadvantage, and it'sprobably not true.
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Old Jun 16, 2007, 8:44 PM   #6
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Just to keep things perfectly straight, The Nikon D-40X will autofocus perfectly. It is just restricted to Using Nikon AF-S, AF-I and Sigma's EX line of lenses. The Nikon D-40X is a fine camera. There are now 40 lenses available for the D-40 and D-40X.

However, the Canon XTi is also 10mp and it is an even better camera. Because I happen to own both camera, I will provide sample photos from both cameras.

Here is the Canon XTi with the Canon 28-135mmIS lens



Here is the Nikon D-40X with the Nikon 55-200mmVR lens




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Old Jun 16, 2007, 11:52 PM   #7
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While i Do agree with you on the xti, I also happen to think your choice of proof is somewhat interesting. Comparing a iso100 picture with an iso1600 picture simply doesn't give a very objective view on the image quality of these cameras.

Here is the exif for the 2 pictures.

pic 1.

Make - Canon
Model - Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XTi
ResolutionUnit - Inch
Software - Adobe Photoshop Elements 5.0
DateTime - 2007:06:02 18:25:56
YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited
ExifOffset - 254
CustomRendered - Normal process
ExposureMode - Auto
White Balance - Auto
SceneCaptureType - Standard
ExposureTime - 1/60 seconds
FNumber - 5.60
ExposureProgram - Normal program
ISOSpeedRatings - 100
ExifVersion - 0221
DateTimeOriginal - 2007:06:02 17:11:43
DateTimeDigitized - 2007:06:02 17:11:43
ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr
ShutterSpeedValue - 1/60 seconds
ApertureValue - F 5.60
ExposureBiasValue - 0.00
MeteringMode - Multi-segment
Flash - Flash fired, compulsory flash mode
FocalLength - 85 mm
FlashPixVersion - 0100
ColorSpace - Uncalibrated (-1)
ExifImageWidth - 3888
ExifImageHeight - 2592
FocalPlaneXResolution - 4433.30
FocalPlaneYResolution - 4453.61
FocalPlaneResolutionUnit - Inch

Maker Note (Vendor): -
Macro mode - Normal
Self timer - Off
Quality - Fine
Flash mode - On
Sequence mode - Single or Timer
Focus mode - AI Focus
Image size - Large
Easy shooting mode - Manual
Digital zoom - None
Contrast - Normal
Saturation - Normal
Sharpness - High , +3
ISO Value - 32767
Metering mode - Evaluative
Focus type - Auto
AF point selected -
Exposure mode - Program
Focal length - 28 - 135 mm (1 mm)
Flash activity - Not fired
Flash details - Internal
Focus mode 2 - Single
White Balance - Auto
Sequence number - 0
Flash bias - 0.00 EV
Subject Distance - 121
Image Type - Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XTi
Firmware Version - Firmware 1.0.5
Owner Name - unknown     ( 
Camera Serial Number - 1220601708
File number - 038 - -1856

Thumbnail: -
ResolutionUnit - Inch
JpegIFOffset - 5538
JpegIFByteCount - 2191




pic 2.

Make - NIKON CORPORATION
Model - NIKON D40X
Orientation - Top left
ResolutionUnit - Inch
Software - PictureProject 1.7.4 W
DateTime - 2007:05:06 10:16:21
YCbCrPositioning - Centered
ExifOffset - 394
CustomRendered - Normal process
ExposureMode - Auto
White Balance - Auto
DigitalZoomRatio - 1 x
FocalLengthIn35mmFilm - 300 mm
SceneCaptureType - Standard
GainControl - High gain up
Contrast - Normal
Saturation - Normal
Sharpness - Normal
SubjectDistanceRange - Unknown
ExposureTime - 1/80 seconds
FNumber - 5.60
ExposureProgram - Not defined
ISOSpeedRatings - 1600
ExifVersion - 0221
DateTimeOriginal - 2007:01:01 00:10:43
DateTimeDigitized - 2007:01:01 00:10:43
ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr
ExposureBiasValue - 0.00
MaxApertureValue - F 5.66
MeteringMode - Multi-segment
LightSource - Auto
Flash - Not fired, compulsory flash mode
FocalLength - 200 mm
UserComment -
SubsecTime - ÿ
SubsecTimeOriginal - ÿ
SubsecTimeDigitized - ÿ
FlashPixVersion - 0100
ColorSpace - Uncalibrated (-1)
ExifImageWidth - 2562
ExifImageHeight - 3209
SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor
FileSource - Other
SceneType - Other

Maker Note (Vendor): -
Data version - 0120 (808530480)
Thumbnail IFD offset - 3242

Thumbnail: -
ResolutionUnit - Inch
JpegIFOffset - 4146
JpegIFByteCount - 2573


Lets have an iso100 picture and a iso1600 picture from both so we are not comparing apples and bananas.

Otherwise I quite agree with Mtclimber

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That was entirely inadvertent. I will shoot another with the D-40X tomorrow for you. Thanks for pointing that out.

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No problem Mtclimber. And i hope it didn't sound disrespectful seing as that was not my intention
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mtclimber wrote:
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Just to keep things perfectly straight, The Nikon D-40X will autofocus perfectly.
Absolutely, but as arncel says, the D40X is not an "auto focus body".
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