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Old Aug 6, 2007, 4:59 AM   #1
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I'm quite new to photography & I've been doing quite a bit of research on different cameras within my budget ($500 Canadian) & I keep coming back to the S3 IS camera. I've seen a lot of photographs and know partially what the camera is capable of, but a lot of times people don't post whether or not they are using the stock lens & also if they have done any post processing.. Could you please offer me some photographs with just the stock lens,.. any type. macro.. wide... portraits... landscape.. whatever you feel like displaying. Thank you in advance.. Also, I heard the ISO 400 & 800 had quite a bit of noise.. How does this camera do indoors with low light? Also, do you know of any cameras similar to price & quality that I should check out?
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The Canon S-3IS is an excellent camera, but it is not a great performer indoors at lower light levels. That seems to be the domain of the the Fuji high ISO capable cameras. Here is a photo straight out of 3 year old Canon S-2IS camera. It was taken indoors without flash, handheld, in our living room. With the afternoon sun low on the horizon there was sufficient light to use ISO 50 and a very slow shutter, allowing the camera's IS to take care on any camera motion.

I have an S-3 IS on order and it should be able to provide some added samples for your on either this coming Thursday or Friday.

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Old Aug 7, 2007, 1:48 AM   #3
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Thank you for the image & the response.. A friend of mine recommended the Nikon D40 as well.. It's quite a bit more expenisve though & i'm not sure being new to photography that I would get the most out of that camera. What's the real advantage to owning a Digital SLR?
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Howdy from across the pond!

I've had an S3 for six months, and have been truly stunned with it. Picture quality in 95% of circumstances is superb, although low-light indoor shots do sometimes thorw up the odd anomaly. It depends what proportion of your shots you'll be taking under those circumstances.

For convenience, cost, portability, and cost again, I find the S3 streets ahead of a D-SLR for what I use it for; true, a D40 will have better image quality, but a) at what price, and b) would you ever have it - and the right lens - with you?

Try buying a set of lenses for a D40 that will take you from 36mm to 432mm, and you'll see just what a bargain the S3 is. Cost aside, by the tone of your query, you sound like me - someone who'd much rather not to have to do a great load of post-processing in order to get a half-decent shot, and for that I think the Nikon's greater processability (if that's even a word) is a bit of a red herring.

style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #000000"Anyway, here's a pile ofshots I've taken withmy stock S3 on - usually - stock settings. They're resized to fit under Photobucket's free 1MB imit, coz I'm a cheapskate. No post-processing, and - clearly - only very limited user ability!

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Thank you for sharing your photos, they are lovely.. I can definitely see the quality of the camera.. After thinking about it some, & realizing the cost of a DSLR with proper lenses for what I would want, combined with various pictures I've seen from many sites now of the S3 & S5 camera line... I think I will go for one of those two.. Some people have said that the S5 has a little less image quality compared with the S3.. is this true?
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Cheers - glad to help out.

I've not seen or used an S5 myself so I've only read the same reviews you have.Youknow the main changes - extra 2MP, bigger & clearerscreen, newer processor, face detection plus a hotshoe for external flash, but for me, the key metric for any camera is always "How good are the pictures?!".

The review at http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/ca...hot_s5-review/is a little more comprehensive than the one Steve posted (sorry, Steve!), and makes some interesting comparisons with the S3's image quality. Slightly noisier, and slightly higher purple fringing seem to be the main retrograde steps.

Canon's optics are generally superb, though, so if you bought either of them, I imagine you'd be truly delighted! One main point is that with the S5 being the new boy in class, there'll be some superb deals to be had on an S3 ... that might be enough to sway you - your $500 Canadian should bag you an S3, case, piles of rechargeables and plenty of SanDisk Ultra cards!

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Carlos has stated the case very, very well. Yes, the S-5 is available, and yes it does have some improvements. You have ask yourself if those improvements are great enough to take a slight hit in IQ, while at the same time spending more money. The imager size in the S-5 is exactly the same and the imager size on the S-3, as a result, you have to find space for 2,000,000 more pixels. The result is more noise, and because of the change from the Digic II module on the S-3, to the Digic III module on the S-5, you have to add a lot of Noise reduction, which results in more water color effects in your images due the noise reduction. And for this you have to pay roughly $175 to $200 more in price.

At least for me, that makes the S-3 a huge bargain.

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Hi, Sarah.. Today i'm going to go look at cameras with a friend.. She finds more value with the S5 & after reading a bunch I think the S3 is the better deal, considering I don't need the added features..as well as the points you mentioned. The brighter/clearer LCD would be nice but the battery life of the S5 is roughly 100 pictures less as well because of the added size of the LCD.. I think no matter which one you buy, it's a great line of cameras & I can't wait to start shooting pictures. BTW, Did you receive your S3 yet?
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The S-3 is scheduled to arrive tomorrow 08/08. I will post photos as soon as I get it up and operating.

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Looking at reviews and photos, the only real-world edge that has a dramatic impact on image quality for the s5 is the hot shoe. If you plan on doing a lot of flash photography this is an enormous edge. Being able to use a flash like the 430EX and bounce it off walls/ceilings (not to mention a huge power increase over the built-in flash) is a big advantage - but only IF flash photography is a big part of your shooting - and if you're taking family photos indoors then flash photography will play a huge part. Otherwise, I agree that the S3 is a much better value.

So if you're thinking about needing ISO 400 & 800, the question becomes: why? Is it a situation where a flash could be used? If so then the S5 is probably the better buy - just make sure you have the $$ for a flash like the 430ex. If you want high ISO / no flash photos then canon digicams are the wrong place to look.


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