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Old Aug 16, 2007, 2:56 PM   #1
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Hello everyone!

I'm looking for a new cam - and I have no idea, which I should buy.

There are several requirements I have for the new cam:

- it should be a compact or ultra-compact size...
- it should have at least 5MPs
- it would be nice if it could take pictures in 16:9 format
- optical zoom should be at least 5x
- the cam should be able to record in mpeg4-format (640x480/30s or even better would be 16:9)

I'm using the cam when I'm on vacation, on partys and at concerts...

Some cams I was considering:
- Casio Exilim EX-V7, but I read that the picture quality isn't good
- Olympus Stylus 780, but I'm not sure it can record in mpeg4-format
- Some Sony cams... but they always lack one or two requirements


The Samsing i85 sounds interesting... any reviews yet?
Or are there any other cams - not available yet - which meet my requirements?

thanks and greetings from Austria

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I'll lead off with the comment that Salzburg is my favorite city in Europe. We'd use almost any excuse to spend a weekend or more there. Being within 300-400 k was generally a good enough excuse.

I can't answer all your questions but the Olympus Stylus 780 spec sheet states the video is recorded in mpeg format but with an AVI container/file format rather than an MOV container. Otherwise it seems to meet your requirements well. I haven't used that model but have generally been satisfied with several other models of Stylus cameras.

Personally I have a bias against Samsung as they appear to my mind to be designed primarily to have good advertising numbers rather than image quality.
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Manfred-

Why not take a good look at the new Canon A-650IS? It will have the 16:9 format.

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 9:47 PM   #4
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From your specs, the Panasonic TZ3 seems a good match. It can do 848x480 16:9 video (but in MJPEG not MPEG-4). For MPEG-4, you should look at the Samsung.

The TZ3 is 7mp, 10x optically stabilized zoom. It's compact but not ultracompact. It has a wide angle lens starting a 28mm (eq) and ending at 280mm eq. It also has a nice 3" LCD but no viewfinder. This camera is very popular due to the big zoom combined with the compact size. It's also the only camera I know that is capable of shooting in 4:3 3:2 and 16:9 without croping.

The only downside for you is no mpeg-4 but with higher capacity card it's not that much of a big deal now IMO. The TZ3 takes SDHC cards.
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Old Aug 23, 2007, 4:40 PM   #5
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thanks for your suggestions!

i looked at the cams, but to be honest, none of them is what i am looking for...

after looking through several other cams and thinking about my requirements, i realized that i don't need the 16:9 format...

but divx is a must - even with the higher card-capacity "normal" mjpegs-videos just take too much space.

i found some cams that look interesting...

Samsung S850, L85: has everything i want... 5x optical zoom, mpeg4-videos - but i didn't find any review...


Kodak Z1275, Z885: 5x optical zoom, mpeg4-videos - but also, no review yet...

any advise about those cams?

thanks for your effort!

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Old Aug 23, 2007, 6:24 PM   #6
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Did you consider the possibility to simply recompress the videos in DivX ? Beside, if video is so important why not buy a separate digicam?

The Samsung seem to be a mixed bag. I know some people that love the L700 because it has good high ISO quality. On the other hand some of their cams have received mixed reviews to say the least.

About the Kodak: the Z812IS will be out in september and is supposed to shoot video in HDTV (1280x720 @30fps). I don't remember if it supports divx though because any reference to this model have disappeared from the Kodak website!

Any point to consider. Make sure the camera support real image stabilization, it helps a lot for video.
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Old Aug 23, 2007, 7:29 PM   #7
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hi delius!

thanks for your info!

i found the specs for the Z1275: Specs


what i'm not sure right now is...

at the Casio Exilim EX-V7 review, Steve writes: "Motion video clips are encoded into MPEG-4 AVI-Format."
The Kodak Z127 encodes its videos in "Quicktime video format MPEG4"

does this mean that the Casio creates an .AVI and the Kodak a .MOV file?

thanks,

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katatonius wrote:
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does this mean that the Casio creates an .AVI and the Kodak a .MOV file?
Probably yes. MOV is Quicktime and it sucks if you plan to use a DVD player with DivX compatibility. But I suppose you could always convert the video to AVI?
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