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Old Jan 3, 2008, 11:18 AM   #1
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18X ZOOM WIDE LENS? FZ18,S8000FD,560UZ

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Old Jan 3, 2008, 11:32 AM   #2
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PANASONIC FZ18
Resolution: 8.10 Megapixels Lens: 18.00x zoom
(28-504mm eff) Viewfinder: EVF / LCD LCD Size: 2.5 inch ISO: 100-6400 Shutter: 60-1/2000 Max Aperture: 2.8 Mem Type: SDHC / SD Battery: Custom LiIon Dimensions: 4.6x3.0x3.5in
(118x75x88mm) Weight: 15.6 oz
(441 g)

Power-on Time 3.1 sec Shutter Lag,
Full Autofocus 0.400 - 0.500 sec Shutter Lag,
Prefocused 0.019 sec Shot to Shot time 1.87 sec Continuous Speed 3.00 fps
(4 shots) Best Macro 1.38x1.06 in
35x27mm Viewfinder accuracy
(Optical) 100% Viewfinder accuracy
(LCD) 100% Distortion
(Wide Angle) 0.2% Distortion
(Telephoto) -0.1% Battery Life
(CIPA standard) 400 shots

FUJIFILM S8000FD
Resolution: 8.00 Megapixels Lens: 18.00x zoom
(27-486mm eff) Viewfinder: EVF / LCD LCD Size: 2.5 inch ISO: 64-6400 Shutter: 4-1/2000 Max Aperture: 2.8 Mem Type: SDHC / SD / xD Battery: 4 x AA Dimensions: 4.4x3.1x3.1in
(111x78x79mm) Weight: 18.0 oz
(511 g)


Power-on Time 4.2 sec Shutter Lag,
Full Autofocus 0.870 - 0.940 sec Shutter Lag,
Prefocused 0.018 sec Shot to Shot time 2.93 sec Continuous Speed 1.11 fps
(3 shots) Best Macro 1.06x0.79 in
27x20mm Viewfinder accuracy
(Optical) 99% Viewfinder accuracy
(LCD) 99% Distortion
(Wide Angle) 0.8% Distortion
(Telephoto) -0.6% Battery Life
(CIPA standard) 500 shots
(NiMH AA)


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Old Jan 3, 2008, 11:37 AM   #3
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OLYMPUS SP-560 UZ

Resolution: 8.00 Megapixels Lens: 18.00x zoom
(27-486mm eff) Viewfinder: EVF / LCD LCD Size: 2.5 inch ISO: 50-6400 Shutter: 15-1/2000 Max Aperture: 2.8 Mem Type: xD Battery: 4 x AA Dimensions: 4.6x3.1x3.1in
(116x79x78mm) Weight: 16.4 oz
(464 g)

Power-on Time 2.9 sec Shutter Lag,
Full Autofocus 0.770 - 0.740 sec Shutter Lag,
Prefocused 0.059 sec Shot to Shot time 2.15 sec Continuous Speed 1.09 fps
(14 shots) Best Macro 1.06x0.79 in
27x20mm Viewfinder accuracy
(Optical) 100% Viewfinder accuracy
(LCD) 100% Distortion
(Wide Angle) 0.9% Distortion
(Telephoto) -0.6% Battery Life
(CIPA standard) 610 shots
(NiMH AA)
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none of these got a highly recommended from DP
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Old Jan 3, 2008, 2:54 PM   #5
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It seems to me that most reviewers have favored the FZ-18 over its two rivals. I have the SP-560 and like it, but I really wish it could take 4 full resolution images a second in burst mode like the FZ-18. I also wish it could use SD cards.

I might have chosen the S8000fd except that it has no RAW mode, and, officially, no provision for add on lenses and filters.
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none of these got a highly recommended from DP
The LAST thing you need to be basing what you do or don't buy is whether DPReviewgave it a Highly Recommended or not.
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The LAST thing you need to be basing what you do or don't buy is whether DPReviewgave it a Highly Recommended or not.
It nice to have someone as skilled and knowledgeable as you say so. I read their reviews but try to go into the details and see the actual test results (after determining the limitations of the test procedures, then apply my own criteria.

The 18x superzoom are really a class by themselves and they all carry the some of the same technological baggage by virtue of what they're attempting to accomplish. In the end there are fewer differences between three cameras than between them and, and say for example, the 12x superzooms as a class.

Ultimately the prize will not go to the photographer whose camera has the best spec. sheet or the best "review" but to the photographer most skilled in using the tools at hand.
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Old Jan 4, 2008, 1:34 PM   #8
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ac.smith wrote:
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is whether but to the photographer most skilled in using the tools at hand.
and i need all the help i can get.



BTW if you don't comprehend all the technical jargon, and see little if any difference between camparison pictures, histograms, test patterns, etc, then one has to depend on the experts rating and DP has a good rep.

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derfy-

Your point is well made. Professional reviews do indeed have a place and for some are quite helpful. I own both the Olympus SP-550 and the Panasonic FZ-18. In my own personal use I havefound the Panasonic FZ-18 to produce better quality than theSP-550.

However, for what it is worth,I am of the opinion that the FZ-18 takes afair amount oftweaking, especially in low light level shooting situations without flash. The FZ-18 is not a camera that does well in the Auto Mode. I have attached a FZ-18 sample.

I have not used the Fuji S-8000.

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BTW if you don't comprehend all the technical jargon, and see little if any difference between camparison pictures, histograms, test patterns, etc, then one has to depend on the experts rating and DP has a good rep.
To be honest, if you can't tell any difference in the actual PICTURES betweentwo or more cameras, why should you use any other criteria to decide on a camera other than a feature or twoyou are looking for thatone body has that another does not?

The reviews and "differences" between models are often microscopic in nature and requires the equipment DPReview has on hand to see and point out. Often the only way you can tell a difference is to look at a graph.At that level, does any difference really matter if you can't see it in an actual image?

Look at the actual pictures at the end of each review. I dare say, most everyone would be happy with the quality of the pictures produced by any camera they've tested, whether it was rated Highly Recommended or Above Average.

I have a feeling some of those guys at DPReview, if they ever shot a role of slide film, would rather view the imageswith a microscope rather than a loupe.
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