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Old Jan 20, 2008, 5:31 PM   #1
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Which one should I buy?

In my country both cost around 200$.

1. I can buy a new a560 in a shop with full 12month warranty with whole package etc.
2. used a700 in quite good condition without warranty, without anything - only camera.

So is a700 really worth it? They look the same, a560 even has higher resolution (7mpx vs. 6mpx) but I've heard that a700 takes sharper pics.

I use camera mostly for outdoor pics (pictures from my trips - about 80% are landscapes, pictures of people, friends etc.) and I need a small, good quality camera for that. I barely use flash, I sometimes take pics at sporting events so better zoom is a plus but I don't know if 4x vs. 6x would be that much of a difference. I don't play with manual settings.

Which one would you get in my situation?
I've heard that those Canons are best value for money. Is it true?

Thank you in advance for help.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 9:26 AM   #2
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The decision is obviously up to you, but I think it's a pretty easy one to make.

The A560 is an excellent camera and takes great-looking photos. Its lens might not be quite as sharp as the A700, its zoom is slightly less and it doesn't have full manual controls. But it does have the DIGIC III processor and face detection.

I'd much rather spend my money on a new A560 with a warranty than a used A700 without a warranty.
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Old Jan 21, 2008, 10:08 AM   #3
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Thank you for your help.

I went to the shop to see that camera and I like it.
I think it won't fit in my pocket but still it's not too big.

One dude in that shop suggested that I should rather buy a Lumix ls75 or even better LZ6 which is just slightly more expensive. They look a bit nicer and are a bit smaller but how about their picture quality?
Is any of them better than a560?

Thank you in advance
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2. used a700 in quite good condition without warranty, without anything - only camera.
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If the seller isn't willing to offer some kind of guarantee (at least a7 day trial period, with an unconditionalrefund for cash or at least merchanise)that a camera works, I would go somewhere else.
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I'd buy it off an auction site so I could replace it within 14 days if there's something bad with it.
Usually those cameras there are refurbished.
In that case would you go for a700 rather than a560?
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Thank you for your help.

I went to the shop to see that camera and I like it.
I think it won't fit in my pocket but still it's not too big.

One dude in that shop suggested that I should rather buy a Lumix ls75 or even better LZ6 which is just slightly more expensive. They look a bit nicer and are a bit smaller but how about their picture quality?
Is any of them better than a560?

Thank you in advance

I'd still go with the Canon A560. The Panasonics are fine cameras but the Canon A560 has an optical viewfinder, which for me is essential on bright, sunny days.
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ok, so my last question is: is there anything better (takes better quality photos, is smaller) in a similar price?
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Old Jan 24, 2008, 10:13 AM   #8
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I went to the shop to check out a560. Owner allowed me to try it out. I used my memory card and took more than 50 pictures. After I went home I checked those pics on my pc. I have to say they're good but not impressive.
I feel like it takes bad pictures in a sunny weather (somehow gray-darkish while in reality it was a beautiful sunny weather). I'm even not an amateur if it comes to photos but I saw a lot of noise on cloudless sky. Also picutres are not sharp when I view them in full resolution (details in landscapes like leafs, grass or buildings are a bit blurried). Only objects in 2-3m distance came out really sharp. When I look at those pictures on my pc I have to zoom out to make them look better - when I see them on 1600x1200res they look really good.
Also the camera is a bit bulky and couldn't fit even in my coat's pocket.

I know that it's a lower-middle class camera but that's all I can affoard right now. Is there anything better that's not much more expensive?

Thanks in advance

PS. I took all those pictures with auto settings. I don't ever use any manual settings.
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If you want to stay with Canon, the next step up is the A570IS, and it's gotten great reviews. It should be only a little more expensive than the A560. The A570IS has received special praise for its color fidelity.
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/canon/powershot_a570_is

I have the A720IS, the next level up from the A570IS. The A720IS is a very good camera but somewhat more expensive than the A570IS.
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/canon/powershot_a720_is

For comparison purposes, here are some photos taken with the A560
http://www.pbase.com/cameras/canon/powershot_a560
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thanks a lot. Looks like 570is is in fact a560 with image stabilization. Picture quality seems the same (or at least I don't see a difference) and it's 1/3 more expensive.

A720is pictures look really better (sharper) but it's nearly 350$ here so nearly 2 times of what I wanted to spend (compared to 200$ for a560). I think the quality is much better but the camera is also bigger and costs much more so it's too much for me to spend for a little gain in quality.

It's not that I want to stick with Canon - I just want a quite cheap, small camera that takes as good pics as possible in auto mode - that's my main priority.
I don't really care about brand or manual settings.

Thanks for help. I really like this forum , people here are really kind. I wish every forum on the net was like this one here.


edit: what irritates me the most except sharpness about a560 (same with a570) is that it takes really bad pictures in bright sunlight. All the colors are kind of washed out. I compared similar pictures taken by a720 and they're bright and beautiful while on a560 they came out grey-ish and more depressing. They're also kind of "foggy" sometimes. Sorry I don't know how is this called professionally.
I don't know why those pictures look that way but I take most of my pictures outdoors on holidays and that would really bother me.

examples of what I mean:
http://www.pbase.com/tater1/image/85429705
http://www.pbase.com/tater1/image/85429697
http://dpreview-img.fotki.com/galler...s/img_0047.jpg
http://dpreview-img.fotki.com/galler...s/img_0061.jpg

on a720is similar pics look sweet and saturated much nicer like those examples here:
http://www.pbase.com/grahamcheckley/image/90045126
http://www.pbase.com/grahamcheckley/image/88395647

even on a700 they look great:
http://www.pbase.com/bike50now/image/82701998
http://www.pbase.com/image/62505923
http://www.pbase.com/caveman_lee/image/62505925


Is it just an accident, my eyes or is a560 much weaker outdoors? Why those pics came like that?

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