Go Back   Steve's Digicams Forums > Digicam Help > What Camera Should I Buy?

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old Aug 22, 2008, 12:17 AM   #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 324
Default

mtclimber wrote:
Quote:
Stevie-

Beyond the Panasonic TZ-5, what other cameras would you suggest? And do they have a hot shoe that will mount a nice external flash?

Sarah Joyce
As soon as somebody says small enough to carry around, but still has good whatevers... I just cringe because I know those combinations are just too hard to find.

I love the G9. It may be the perfect small camera. Up to a point. Thesize and weight of the camera really sux for a walking around, quick to grap, shirt pocket type camera. IF, and that is a pretty darn big IF, if the G9 was shrunk down just abit so the camera could slip in and out of my shirt pocket I would jump on the camera in a heart beat... even over looking the weight. Yes, it is that good of a camera.

The Panny TZ-5 almost fits my requirements, except as you pointed out the no hotshoe, and we all know about the noise problems of camera. But for many people the TZ-5 is becoming a good all around compromise of range of lens plus size and general features. Except the OP already dismissed the TZ-5 and returned the camera.

Getting a camera physically smaller than the TZ-5 doesn't make much sense when the lense range is 38-105 or something similar and the user wants to shot indoors or a subjects just a short distance away. And then there is the lack of a viewfinder on one camera, or the wee bitty size of the other camera that makes it difficult to hold or use.

See my delimna recommending a single camera over another?




StevieDgpt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 22, 2008, 1:17 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
mtclimber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Oregon, USA
Posts: 18,143
Default

Stevie-

I agree with you completely, the popular Panasonic TZ-5, is good but only if you accept the following compromises:

No OVF or EVF
No Flash Hotshoe
A somewhat underpowered flash.

Personally, I would rather accept a somewhat larger physical size, and get the somewhat better photos, and features that I really want. Bottomline, because it is a personal choice, we all have to make a personal decision about what "trade-off's" we can accept. The TZ-5 is so popular because the TZ-5 users make a decision about trade-offs.

For the OP, the Fuji F-100 might work just fine.

Take a look at this TZ-5 sample photo. The photo was taken, using the TZ-5's built-in flash, at about 8 feet. The camera had to increase the ISO setting to ISO 640 to get the photo. To me that is a real trade-off.

Sarah Joyce
Attached Images
 
mtclimber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 22, 2008, 7:32 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 324
Default

Yep,even with the resized picture I can see the typical low light / weak flash problem of the TZ-5. Of course any camera with a weak flash is going to need to increase the ISO ... and so many small cameras havea similar noise problem (+/-).

The question that kind of remains .... which is better.... stronger flash or better performance at higer ISO?
StevieDgpt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 22, 2008, 9:20 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
mtclimber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Oregon, USA
Posts: 18,143
Default

Stevie-

Perhaps it is just me, but I prefer to use a well powered external flash rather than using the high ISO/Low Light Level approach. The images obtained are much better and you don't have to apologize for quality of your images.

Thus, my choice is to either use a consumer level DSLR camera with its appropiate brand name flash, or if you prefer a lesser budget, how about the Canon S-5IS coupled with the Canon EX-430 flash.

Sarah Joyce
mtclimber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 22, 2008, 10:24 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Marquette, MI
Posts: 285
Default

The S5 IS will most likely be replaced very shortly, so there may be a drop in price (and availability). The G9 is already listed as Discontinued at B&H, so everyone is anticipating an announcement from Canon on the new line of cameras, including a probable S6 IS.

The 430EX is also about to be replaced by the 430EX II (available for pre-order on Amazon now), with it's (430EX) price also dropping. Now may be a good time to watch for the transition, and save even more money?

Dennis
denncald is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 23, 2008, 12:03 AM   #16
Senior Member
 
mtclimber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Oregon, USA
Posts: 18,143
Default

Dennis-

While things are always changing, we have to take our photos in real time. Thus, I for one, will deal with the "new stuff" only when it truly arrives on the dealer's shelves.

Sarah Joyce
mtclimber is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 4:20 PM.