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Old Jan 25, 2009, 9:26 AM   #1
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Here's the thing. I would like a dslr, but in reality I can only afford$200.00

I have a Hp photosmart m527. My mom bought a kodak easyshare 1033. I love the 1033, but there is no control over the settings.

Is there something that is like the1033 with atleast somecontrol with it?

I think what I want is a camera that I can use without thinking about the settings, but be able to control them if I want. Also I want rechagable battey like the 1033

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Old Jan 25, 2009, 12:45 PM   #2
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Exiled Prince... with a $200 price ceiling, you're not going to have a wide range of choices that meet all of your criteria. But I do have some suggestions.

For quality cameras about the same size as your current Kodak, priced well under $200 and offering markedly more control than most cameras in their class:

In order, they are the Panasonic LZ8 and the Canon A590 IS. The Panasonic offers full manual control as well as aperture priority, shutter priority, a variety of scene modes and full automatic. The Canon offers aperture priority, shutter priority, a variety of scene modes and full automatic. Most cameras in this price range tend to offer only scene modes and full automatic. The Panasonic LZ8 is literally a steal in this category... offering the most control, the greatest zoom range and one of the lowest prices. Check out this very recent comparison test:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/Q408budgetgroup/

For a bit more money, (but still under $200) there's also the Panasonic LZ10, which offers 10 megapixels to the LZ8's 8 megapixels. The Canon A590 IS also offers 8 megapixels. But, frankly, unless you're printing well above 8x12 photos, 8 megapixels is just fine.

If you want to go right up to $200, Kodak offers a slightly larger camera, the Z1085 IS, which offers a larger sensor and a choice of full manual control as well as scene modes and full automatic:

http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQueri...q-locale=en_US

At the same $200 price point and in the same size class as the Z1085, is Kodak's Z8612 IS, which offers full manual control, aperture priority, shutter priority a variety of scene modes and full automatic (as well as a markedly longer zoom range and a smaller sensor about the same size as the Pan asonic and Canon above):

http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQueri...q-locale=en_US

The Z8612 offers 8 megapixels of resolution while the Z1085 offers 10 megapixels. But both of these Kodak cameras will be larger than your current Kodak camera.

If you're willing to go just above $200 (but not by much), check out the Canon SX110 IS. This camera is about the same size as the two Kodaks above and offers 9 megapixels, full manual control, aperture priority, shutter priority, a variety of scene modes and full automatic. Like the Kodak Z8612, the Canon SX110 IS is considered a "megazoom" camera. Check out this review:

http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/d...sp?newsID=3726

Hope this gets you started. let us know how it goes.


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Old Jan 25, 2009, 1:25 PM   #3
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Fuji S700 (aka S5700), S1000, Kodak Z8612 IS, Nikon P60, and a few Samsung compacts also have some form of manual control. Or shop around for a used Canon SX100 or Kodak SLR-like Z#12.

The more recent auto-shooters do give you some exposurecontrol via setting EV compensation, ISO, and Scenes. I'm learning this with my Fuji F45fd. Just a different game from the old traditional manual control.

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Old Jan 26, 2009, 4:12 AM   #4
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The nearest Kodak equivalent to your desired dSLR, with many of the same functions, but needing just its own fixed lens, and lots of P, A, S, M, manually adjustable settings, is the Z1012is. I bought mine direct from the UK version of the Kodak online shop, remarkably cheaply, so it may be worth checking the price where you are, and trying to stretch the budget a little if necessary. Many Z1012 images are on view, plus discussion, right here in the 'Kodak' forum.

On it you get a live preview in the eye-level electronic viewfinder. Live preview isn't universal on dSLRs, and even then it's not in the viewfinder.

The Z8612 has no eye-level or optical viewfinder, only the LCD screen.

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Old Jan 26, 2009, 11:06 AM   #5
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Thanks for the replies. I'm looking at all of the suggetions right now. Alot to read through.

I have a few more questions if you will bare with me as I'm a total amature.

1. Are all anti shake features the same? some cameras go into describtion while others do not.

2. I've been told that some pics I send through email look broken up. I've read that 8mp is good enough for 8x10 but I think it would be important for a pic to look good online so I'm thinking of doing 10mp. What do you think?

and finally if you're still with me, I was wondering if anyone would tell me what they think of the pics I've done so far. They can be seen here

http://www.flickr.com/photos/princeofcincinnati/

Thanks for your time.
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2. I've been told that some pics I send through email look broken up. I've read that 8mp is good enough for 8x10 but I think it would be important for a pic to look good online so I'm thinking of doing 10mp. What do you think?
It depends what you mean by broken up. I've looked at a few of your shots and there seems to be a lot of noise due probably to shooting in low light and the camera increasing the ISO. This is nothing to do with the resolution of the camera, back in the day I've taken perfectly clean 2mp images so it will come down to using the right settings for the job to get the desired results.

When you are talking about online do you mean on things like flickr? If so then as well as taking a goodshot inthe first place the restcomes down to a little bit of post production (PP) as this can really make a difference.



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Old Jan 26, 2009, 12:57 PM   #7
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and finally if you're still with me, I was wondering if anyone would tell me what they think of the pics I've done so far. They can be seen here

http://www.flickr.com/photos/princeofcincinnati/

Thanks for your time.
Your shots are very artistic but, as Mark says, they are kind of noisy. You obviously like shooting in low light. For about $200 you can purchase the Fuji F60fd, which will give you the best low light photos available at that price.

Here are some sample photos:

http://fiveprime.org/flickr_hvmnd.cg...p;tag_mode=all
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well it is important on how it looks on flickr, but I was talking in that intstance about emails. Thanks for replying.
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and finally if you're still with me, I was wondering if anyone would tell me what they think of the pics I've done so far. They can be seen here

http://www.flickr.com/photos/princeofcincinnati/

Thanks for your time.
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Your shots are very artistic but, as Mark says, they are kind of noisy. You obviously like shooting in low light. For about $200 you can purchase the Fuji F60fd, which will give you the best low light photos available at that price.

Here are some sample photos:

http://fiveprime.org/flickr_hvmnd.cg...amp;tag_mode=a
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well thank you. I never thought about it but I guess I do like to shoot in low/ given light. when I was in art school I fooled around with an old fashion poloroid and a 35 mm though not much came of it. I never took a class or anything like that.. I'll look up the fuji.
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I would also suggest for instance a Sony DSC h1 or h2. That's whatI stepped up to from a plain jane P&S. In factI think the term for this type of camera is a"bridge" to the DSLR. They give you the manual control that you cant get out of most P&S cameras, You can even add different lenses.With the right lens, they take great macro shots.I have had both the H1 and H2.the H2 has a higher pixel count but a smallerlcd screen. And they can be had for under 200 bucks onebay for instance

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-CyberShot-D...3A1%7C294%3A50

this one has a broken shutter button which has been a problem for some, but there are fixes on the net. Personally I havent had it happen to me or my two firends who have that camera. there are other bridge cameras, but the sonys are the only ones i am familiar with.




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