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Old Aug 18, 2009, 8:28 AM   #21
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Same boat. I am considering FZ28 (35), SX10 and the Kodak Z980. SX10 fatal errors reported are a little disconcerting given the number of reports on the web.
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You posted about "fatal errors" affecting the Canon SX-10. Are you referring to the Canon E-18 lens extension error?

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I've been looking at the Sigma lens. How does the zoom compare to that of the SX10?

I've been on flickr browsing through images in the Sigma 70-300mm pool, and most of the images I've seen have been taken with entry level DSLRs, like the Nikon D60 and Canon 1000D (which my dad just bought). The images are astounding, and it makes me very tempted to get a lower priced DSLR with a couple of nice lenses, much like what you have.
A bit of history : just after buying the SX10 I started asking questions on a forum and there was one guy who really did some amazing stuff on a shoestring budget. He told me that if I wasn't sure about the dSLR stuff as a hobby to not spend too much, hence my Nikon D40 purchase. I'm not short of cash but I've found that one can really go overboard with buying the most expensive kit, so I'm limiting myself price wise to the lenses and extras that I'll buy. I figure that if I can make really good photos with my 'cheapo' setup then getting the D3/1D next year won't be too hard to convince the wife I figure that I've spent less than 800€ for the kit that I have ($1100) and I still have lots and lots to learn.

If you are talking about 10 or 15 times zoom factor then you'll be disappointed with dSLR zooms. You cannot compare. IIRC the SX10 had a 35mm equivalent of 560mm (correct me if I'm wrong), the Sigma zoom on the D40 gives you 450mm but at f/5.6 - in my experience the quality of images is much higher from the Nikon for these sorts of distances. That Sigma is 150€ - a bargain !!!! I'll be testing it at the beach this weekend shooting at surfers.

Like I said before, the SX10 was a great little camera, but I soon found its limits for the type of shots that I wanted to do.

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I am also a DSLR user. I keep a super zoom camera (Panasonic FZ-28) just for those long zoom shots, rather than mounting a huge and expensive zoom lens on my Nikon D-40 camera.

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And yes, as expected, the new Canon SX-20 with 12mp was introduced this morning (08/19/09). It seems like more pixels on the small ccd imager will make for added electronic noise at high ISO settings.

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Just remember that features really don't mean much. Many cheap cameras offer numerous features to lure potential customers to buy their lower-priced cameras.
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Hi guys,

I have been looking at buying a superzoom camera for a couple of weeks now and have had a look at a couple of them in the shops. Unfortunately you can't really compare image quality between cameras in the shop. At the moment there are two models I'm considering on my budget, they are the Pany DMC-FZ38(FZ35 in US) and the Nikon P90. There are pros and cons to both but the most important thing for me is picture quality.

I love the zoom on the Nikon P90! and I really hoped that Panasonic would boost the zoom when they brought out the FZ38 but they didn't The other thing is that the Pany can take HD movies and RAW format photos. Now, being a complete noob I don't really know what RAW photos are but only that everyone on every forum thinks they are good and I suppose that when I get around to learning all this stuff I don't want to be disappointed by not having it. The P90 also doesn't have a live histogram, like I said before, being a noob I don't yet know what it does but know that having it is good in some way.

The big thing for me again is picture quality and that's what I don't really know. I would greatly appreciate it if someone can put this into perspective for me, FZ38 vs P90 on image quality
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A bit of history : just after buying the SX10 I started asking questions on a forum and there was one guy who really did some amazing stuff on a shoestring budget. He told me that if I wasn't sure about the dSLR stuff as a hobby to not spend too much, hence my Nikon D40 purchase. I'm not short of cash but I've found that one can really go overboard with buying the most expensive kit, so I'm limiting myself price wise to the lenses and extras that I'll buy. I figure that if I can make really good photos with my 'cheapo' setup then getting the D3/1D next year won't be too hard to convince the wife I figure that I've spent less than 800€ for the kit that I have ($1100) and I still have lots and lots to learn.

If you are talking about 10 or 15 times zoom factor then you'll be disappointed with dSLR zooms. You cannot compare. IIRC the SX10 had a 35mm equivalent of 560mm (correct me if I'm wrong), the Sigma zoom on the D40 gives you 450mm but at f/5.6 - in my experience the quality of images is much higher from the Nikon for these sorts of distances. That Sigma is 150€ - a bargain !!!! I'll be testing it at the beach this weekend shooting at surfers.

Like I said before, the SX10 was a great little camera, but I soon found its limits for the type of shots that I wanted to do.

Matt
Some great info there matt, thanks so much.

Incidentally I was at my friend's house today and he gave me a tour of his D40 - a very nice camera indeed! After spending some time with it and snapping away with some very nice lenses (including a 500mm prime ) I'm hooked. It's just a shame that a good zoom lens will be expensive.

Perhaps the D40 would be a great start because it's very cheap but produces excellent images, and I should have plenty money left over to blow on a big zoom lens. I will need to speak to my wife also - perhaps I'll upgrade to a D90 next year if I really get into photography. At the moment the D90 is far too expensive in the UK, costing equivalent to $1300 for the kit.

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And yes, as expected, the new Canon SX-20 with 12mp was introduced this morning (08/19/09). It seems like more pixels on the small ccd imager will make for added electronic noise at high ISO settings.

Have a great day.
They have gone the same route as Panasonic with the FZ38. IMHO this is not an upgrade, just a marketing ploy.
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Matching the Camera Capabilities, the Budget, Your Personal Preferences, and your Eventual Destination in Photography is always a huge balancing act.

Personally, I shoot with several cameras. I match the camera to the photo situation and use super zooms and DSLR cameras as needed. Learning the craft of photography is essential if you want to shoot better photos and move forward in your photographic skills. In short, the better the photos that you take, the more fun you have with your photography.

The camera is a tool. It is the knowledge and the skill of the photographer that makes the better photo, that you and those around you, like your family and friends, appreciate and admire.

Is the Panasonic FZ-35 better than the Nikon P-90? It all depends on your priorities and what you want to do with your photos. Progression-wise, at some point in your photo career, you will want better cameras and lenses, that is when the DSLR becomes a possibility.

However, you have to learn your craft first. Davi, have you looked in the Nikon digicam folder? There is an excellent thread there that really focuses on shooting with the Nikon P-90. Take a look, it might be helpful.

Have a wonderful day.

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You mean the one that's nearly 70 pages long? Yeah I read that thread, and it's an awesome read.

In fact, after reading that thread the P90 was the camera for me, but having taken time to consider the pros and cons of getting a dSLR I now think that if I buy a superzoom I'll ultimately regret it.

Deciding on the right dSLR will take a while, but there's no hurry so for the time being I'm going to get busy with research.
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