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Old Feb 15, 2010, 10:00 AM   #1
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Default Advice on a P & S vs. DLSR, again....

Reviewing some of the threads before making a final decision. As mentioned earlier, I am looking to replace my older P & S on its last leg. Price is a consideration.

Here are my choices:

Sony H20 -- $225

Pentax Kx -- $445

Olympus E520 w/ a 40 - 150 mm zoom -- $466

Canon T1i -- out of my price range.

I think the H20 will work for me (quality shots of kids and real estate photos for work) and am tempted to purchase it. But I will consider spending the extra $200 if the DSLR models absolutely blow the H20 out of the water.

And a final question, will the price drops on a few models (i.e. the Canon lines) happen later this summer since new models are out?

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Old Feb 15, 2010, 11:24 AM   #2
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Good Morning, Luke-

The real issue we have to know a number of factors:

How much you re willing to spend?

How important is camera size? Must the camera be pocket-able?

How important is having a wide angle?

How important is battery type?

How important is shot to shot time?

Are you going to shoot all the time in automatic?

What percentage of your photos will be indoors?

Are you willing to use flash for indoor photos?

Are you going to be making large (greater than 11" X 14") prints?

How often are you going to be taking sports photos?

Are school plays, music recitals, and indoor e vents where flash might be out of the question, on your priority list?

Do you just want to record an event, or are you desiring to learn more about photography?

Marco, suggesting a camera is like fitting clothes, we have to know something about the user and the user's goals.

Have a great day.

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Old Feb 15, 2010, 12:03 PM   #3
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How much you re willing to spend? -- @ $200 if it is a true point and shoot. Up to $750 if it is the end all kit that I can grow into

How important is camera size? Must the camera be pocket-able? -- Only if it is a cheap P & S (which would be great for work)

How important is having a wide angle? -- fairly important for indoor photos

How important is battery type? -- AA rechargeable batteries are great for my work, but again, this is probably something where we start the discussion about needing two different cameras for work and play

How important is shot to shot time? -- very, very important. This is the main reason I have considered a new camera before mine broke. My kids like to run from me

Are you going to shoot all the time in automatic? -- To begin, yes. As I learn the camera I'd like to expand my use.

What percentage of your photos will be indoors? -- 50%

Are you willing to use flash for indoor photos? -- Yes

Are you going to be making large (greater than 11" X 14") prints? -- Very doubtful, but I have in the past (B & W)

How often are you going to be taking sports photos? -- Not too often, but as my kids get older that will change

Are school plays, music recitals, and indoor e vents where flash might be out of the question, on your priority list? -- Not yet, but as my kids get older that will change

Do you just want to record an event, or are you desiring to learn more about photography? -- Yes and yes

[COLOR="Black"]Those are great questions. After answering them, I have just about decided that I need a cheap, quick, tough and compact P & S for work and a good DSLR for my personal use. I realize the Sony is not a compact P & S, but it still sounds like a great camera. Any suggestions for a tough and affordable pocket camera that can tackle all conditions?[/COLOR]
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The H20 is a great little camera, but will have limitations when it comes to real estate photos. In my judgement, the 38mm is to restrictive for shooting the interior of a house.
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The H20 is a great little camera, but will have limitations when it comes to real estate photos. In my judgement, the 38mm is to restrictive for shooting the interior of a house.
i agree, you really need to go as wide as possible for interiors. thats means a dslr with a nice ultrawide, or a digicam with a wider angle lens.

if you are looking for a p&s for real estate. the panasonic LX3 has a 24mm lens and does reasonably well at high ISO's. it's zoom is limited, which may make it a problem for an all-around work/personal use camera. but it will tackle the real estate much better.
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If you are taking "real estate" photos, you need a wide angle, providing there is not to much distortion, and you need a reliable light source, be it a DSLR or a P+S camera. Otherwise, you will not make use of those photos.

Real Estate photos are a specialist niche. It takes good looking photos that are sharp, bright, and attractive to the viewer to be successful. They are not snapshots. After I first retired years ago I made $200 to $300 each month just taking real estate photos for real estate agents, who had attempted the challenge and failed at it.

I agree, it is a great way to justify the purchase of a new camera, but it is more demanding than you might think. Purchasers and other real estate agents are not at all impressed if the kitchen cabinet are not square with the adjacent wall etc.

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Just to expand on what Sarah. If you really want the kitchen cabinets to be square, the counter not to bow in the middle, etc. it takes a decently expensive bit of kit. like a good dslr with a low-distortion yet fast ultrawide.

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a minimum setup to do this ideally
Canon T1i + Tokina 11-16 2.8 = ~700+600 = 1300USD

an even better, truly ideal way
Canon 5dmkii + Canon 17mm TSE = ~5000USD

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This explains the fact that some home adds look real good and others, well not so good. The last two realtors I worked with did their own and it showed, and so did the results!
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My interior real estate photos will not be of residential properties. These properties are large enough, and the process in which I present the photos, will not present distortion (I inspected 4 properties today -- the largest was about 1 million sf, and the smallest was 55,000 sf).
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My interior real estate photos will not be of residential properties. These properties are large enough, and the process in which I present the photos, will not present distortion (I inspected 4 properties today -- the largest was about 1 million sf, and the smallest was 55,000 sf).
thanks for clearing that up Luke, i think we all tend to think residential when real estate is mentioned.

that relaxes the criterion quite a bit, so if you comfortable the H20 will fit into your presentation process, it really is a nice camera.
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