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Old Mar 15, 2010, 2:34 PM   #1
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I recently purchased the e520 and am experiencing buyer's remorse.... I was told this was a great camera for shooting weddings and being a total idiot did not do any research and assumed the store would know best. I am wondering what opinions are of this camera and if there are some recomendations for other cameras that would be best suited for this job. I am considering a Nikon d90 or a Canon Xsi only because I have a budget in this range. Any help would be awesome!
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Old Mar 15, 2010, 2:44 PM   #2
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Well, it certainly CAN be good. But, you have to use the right equipment for weddings. What the right equipment is depends entirely on the type of shot. The one area where the camera won't due as good as others is available light shots of the ceremony itself. Even with a proper f2.0 or f2.8 lens such shots are often at higher ISOs (1600, 3200). But again, even with a camera with better high ISO performance, if you want good shots you need those f2.8 or f2.0 lenses.

For most other shots, an external flash is a huge piece of the puzzle. And, if the flsh cannot be bounced then a flash bracket to move the flash off the camera (prevent red-eye) and to position flash above camera will greatly help.

So, bottom line is no camera with kit lens in any system is going to do a great job of photographing weddings.

Finally I'll say this - wedding photography is NOT a point and shoot type of thing. Even with the best equipment on the market it's difficult to get good results consistently.

So, let's get back to YOUR situation. What lens(es), flashes were you using? And what types of shots were you taking that you were unhappy with? If you could post some photos you were not happy with (without ANY post editing other than resizing) people can help you figure out what the problems were.

Oly makes some great lenses and offers great skin tones. So it can absolutely work - especially given the fact that available light service shots are such a very small part of the shots to be taken.
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Old Mar 15, 2010, 3:43 PM   #3
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Hi Jen,

Welcome to Steve's, glad you dropped by

John is correct, wedding shooting isn't easy and equipment does play an important part of the equation. It can be done with more modest equipment than sports photography which is good but you still need to put the right kit together.

One important thing to get sorted first, is this for fun or for paid work? If paid then none of the cameras you mention on their own are enough, not that they are not good enough, it is just that you need to have a backup of everything. You can't afford to have anything go wrong and even if your backup is film you need something.

My wedding shooting style is to use 2 bodies with different lens options and then have a 3rd (and 4th) body spare. The 3rd is ready to go with a similar setup as my primary camera (wide-medium zoom and flash) in case the main camera/lens/flash go down, I can just pick it up and keep shooting.

So you need 2 bodies, 2 lenses covering your normal shooting range, 2 external flash and enough memory as a bare minimum. On top of this as John says you might need some bright prime lenses for venues that won't allow flash during the ceremony, this is becoming less and less, but still you need to be covered in case.

I personally use Canon, but you with the correct setup, lenses and flash you can do what you need with Oly. Now there is something else that can play on the minds of the client and that is how professional they see you depending on the camera. If your work is good then it won't be a problem, if it isn't then they might blame it on what they consider 'lesser equipment'.

All of these shots could be captured with pretty much and dSLR and a standard lens as they are stopped down rather than wide open.






However these shots would take more specialist lenses.







Hopefully that will give you some insight into this game. There is a lot to consider. You need to be 100% certain that you can use your camera, set it up for all situations without thinking so you can get that shot.

Please feel free to ask more questions.

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Thank u both for your quick reply!! well you touched on alot and I will get you up to date with my situation... I am relatively new to the photography world and am in the process of learning. My good friend wanted me to photograph her 2ed wedding because she likes the "work" I have done thus far. I got the e520 with the two kit lenses and am very aware I need at least two more to do this wedding correctly, ie a 2.8 or less and a longer lens for portrait. I have an external flash (promaster) that I have been experimenting with and that's about it. I do know that the church asks that the least ammount of flash possible be used...given this I am begining to worry about the pictures looking crappy because the camera doesn't do so well at a higher iso. I hope to get into doing this more frequently and now that I am experimenting with this camera I am thinking I made a huge mistake. I just want to have the basics to be able to photograph this wedding properly.
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It's a tough situation as better high ISO performance will help in certain situations, outside of that it isn't an issue.

For portraits you don't need anything longer than is included in the 2 lens kit as you don't usually need really wide apertures. The flash might or might not have enough 'kick' to do what you want so keep on playing.

Now, if you were wanting to really get into wedding photography then going to Canon or Nikon might be wise to start building up kit, however if this is staying as a hobby then you should be fine with the Oly and some good lenses/flash. If you do change, are you able to get a refund/exchange or would you be selling it all 2nd hand? If you can't get a refund but want to change then I wouldn't put anything else into the Oly but would probably stick with it for a bit and really decide what you need so you don't go the wrong way again.
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Well I don't think they will be willing to give me a refund or exchange since its been a few months since I purchased it....I went to a place that deals in trade and they offered 250 total for the body and two lenses which I thought was too low. I feel I am pretty much stuck considering I don't have a great deal of money to just go and buy all that I need/want. If by some chance I do get the opportunity to sell for a reasonable ammount what set up do you suggest if this is something I really want to consider? If nothing else I do take a ton of pictures and may also want to work on selling some prints. This is a passion of mine I just hope that it someday turns into something I can possibly make money off of as well. I really appreciate all the advice!
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One quick add on...if I do end up staying with the oly what is one must have lens that I should purchase right away for shooting this wedding? and is there a maker that offers lenses less expensive that fit this camera? Ahh if only budget wasn't an issue for me right now
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One quick add on...if I do end up staying with the oly what is one must have lens that I should purchase right away for shooting this wedding? and is there a maker that offers lenses less expensive that fit this camera? Ahh if only budget wasn't an issue for me right now
Which lenses do you currently have?

As for what to get if you change it really is best to cross that bridge when we come to it as things always change and also it very much depends on budget etc.
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Also - I'm going to throw out another line of thought. What are the expectations of the results? And what type of wedding is it? Wedding work is tricky stuff. If this second wedding were a full fledged wedding with bridal parties and such my honest suggestion is - if you value the friendship, decline to shoot. If it's just the couple with a 10 minute ceremony and small gathering of friends & family with no expectations of wedding book type shots then that's a completely other matter. The point is - it's very flattering to be asked, but you need to be able to put your ego aside and evaluate this situation dispassionately.
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Mark I have a 14-42mm and 40-150mm that came in the kit. As far as budget if I stay with this Oly I wouldn't want to spend much more than $500 if possible.
John this is like I mentioned her second wedding, which I don't believe is any less important than a first..however she is very very aware of my inexperience and does not expect anything of me other than my best to do as good of a job as I am able. No bridezilla here. There is no ego involved at all and like I mentioned I am going to do the best job I am able...given the fact I have 7 months to practice and get very aquainted with my camera I am guessing it will turn out well. She does not want me to do an album of any sort just provide a cd archive of her photos when I am done and she will do with them as she pleases.
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