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Old Mar 29, 2010, 5:30 PM   #11
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Your link is interesting according to it, the panny has a better zoom, and the sony one was weak. Both are week in low light. We really need sample photos to compare the 2.
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Thanks majormaxie-

Your link makes it pretty clear that the HX5 is the better choice.

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 3:31 AM   #13
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Your link in interesting according to it, the panny has a better zoom, and the sony one was weak. Both are week in low light. We really need sample photos to compare the 2.
You keep saying this and while I agree that both are weak in low-light, the Sony outperforms the Panasonic by quite a bit in low-light. This is mentioned in various reviews and is obvious in the image samples as well. There are quite a few low-light pics posted on dpreview as well for the HX5V.
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To provide a photo sample, I have attached a HX5 photo taken at ISO 640.

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And here is a 100% crop of the previous photo.

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Is that 640iso or did you mean 6400iso. the crop did not get uploaded.
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Whoa! Shoturtle-

While ISO 6400 might be available on the Pentax Kx DSLR camera. We are discussing the Sony HX5, a P+S camera, and yes, the posted photo was taken at ISO 640, repeat ISO 640. And the 100% crop is also posted.

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 8:45 PM   #18
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I have no doubt that the current generation can shoot up to 800iso without issues. I have said it about the samsung. And I think the HX5V is very good at 640iso, you will get no arguments form me about that. It is when we go to above 800iso. That you have in low light like the night shots from the hx5v impression thread that you can really see the higher iso performance. The hx5v is very respectable for a point and shoot, the s90 is better. But neither is stellar. And that is the point I am saying. That with a point and shoot, realized the compromise. When I tell my friend who ask me about what point and shoot to get with good low light performance. I honestly tell them put the exception into prospective. And asking them what they consider as good, if they point to any of my dslr low light shots at 1600iso, I will tell them it will not happen with any of the point and shoot.

So I think when we said it is great this or that to visitors and members about low light and burst rate, we should tell them the meaning of great in the p&s world. So they do not get the wrong impression.

So far from my view of the HX5V it is a very impressive point and shoot. Among one of the tops in the field. S90 is better in low light, ZS7 has more reach. And I am weighing what features I am willing to compromise for another feature that I may want more. That is all.
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You may be confusing the advertising with what has been actually posted here in the Forum. You are very correct in stating that getting above ISO 800 is difficult for most P+S cameras price at $350.00 and below.

The Canon S-90, the Canon G-11, and the Panasonic LX3, which are priced at nearly $400.00 and above have larger imagers that allow them to do do better at ISO settings of ISO 800 and above. And at that price level the should.

The Olympus EPL1 priced at $599.00 can easily handle ISO settings of ISO 800 and above, as well. But then like the other three cameras, I would expect it to do so.

The attached photo was taken with the $350 Sony HX5 camera at ISO 800.

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And here is a 100 crop of the above photo.

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