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Old May 29, 2010, 3:54 PM   #11
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Before i drop the coin, can someone give some insight on the TS1(FT1)? Other than the difference in zoom compared to the ZS3(TZ7), it seems pretty darn good. And 'bout 20bucks (+) difference at the local store. I read two comments somewhere about IQ being 'soft'.. supposedly all waterproof cameras have that?

Just a note.. i also thought about getting a GoPro HD cam, and using it to extract stills, effectively giving me a decent video/still combo. I then found some examples of stills being extracted from that camera. Now, i'm no pro, but i'm pretty sure the still quality isn't all that...
http://www.eyeofmine.com/gopro/hd/stills/index.html
What do you 'eagle-eyes' think? They don't seem very sharp to me, and lack depth.

It seems these compact digitals really are excellent 'all-arounders'.

Here's a great example of the lumix video capability..
http://vimeo.com/11824041
At 1:00 there's a sample of what the video looks like after it goes through image stabilization software editing.. good stuff. Although it would have been much more effective if he edited the whole clip that way, and then put the original in the corner of the vid for comparison.

Here's one more..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-lTLGI4zTY
Both videos are done with the TS1(FT1), but i assume it would be the same with the ZS3(TZ7).

edit.. here's one more with the TS1.. withOUT additional stabilization editing..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SiXOkbclPY&NR=1
.. versus an equally unedited go pro clip..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO7r9...rom=PL&index=7

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Old May 29, 2010, 5:14 PM   #12
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I don't even need to enlarge those GoPro images to see how badly they suffer from barrel distortion. Noisy and soft as well.

As for the TS1, it is going to be inferior to the ZS3/ZS7 across the board in terms of IQ, but if I was going to get a tough camera, it would a Panasonic. The TS2 has some notable improvements btw such as double the optical zoom.
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As for the TS1, it is going to be inferior to the ZS3/ZS7 across the board in terms of IQ, but if I was going to get a tough camera, it would a Panasonic.
Thats what i gathered from several reviews about IQ. I guess i'll just be extra careful with the ZS3.. either way, a good knock would probably put the insides of any any camera out of order.
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Thats what i gathered from several reviews about IQ. I guess i'll just be extra careful with the ZS3.. either way, a good knock would probably put the insides of any any camera out of order.
Actually, I saw one review in which he took the TS1/TS2 and intentionally smashed it against the concrete repeatedly. It still looked and worked fine. He did the same with a competing cam and it looked beat to s**t but it still worked.

I don't mountain bike so I don't know the likelihood of damaging a cam. As a hiker, I stick it in my hipbelt pocket and it's relatively safe. I do have to watch for dirt and occasionally for sand if I am at the beach. I don't have to worry too much about it being shockproof because I rarely fall - once or twice on ice while hiking in the winter. I don't have to worry about water generally as I don't particularly want to hike in the rain anyway considering good rain gear is $200-400. If it dos happen to rain and I get caught in it. I double bag it in 2 Ziplocs along with my phone, car key, etc.
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Actually, I saw one review in which he took the TS1/TS2 and intentionally smashed it against the concrete repeatedly. It still looked and worked fine. He did the same with a competing cam and it looked beat to s**t but it still worked.
Cool! So these things can take a beating regardless of the label 'shockproof'.. nice. I fall every now and again while riding.. but never on my chest where the camera will be .. at least not yet!

I'll be sure to post my first film with video and slideshow.. should be interesting.
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Congratulations, Psycro-

Now you can have some fun.

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Old Oct 27, 2010, 1:41 PM   #17
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Just realized i forgot to post something taken with my new (well, now several months old) camera!!

Here's one vid i made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df9wCIy-OFE

I've made some great photo's also, but i've kinda caught the bug. Would be nice to have an SLR for low light and action stuff.. although i must admit i managed to take some really nice photos taken in night mode(granted, not movement shots) and sports mode just the same.
As soon as i figure out which photo hosting site i want to use, i'll post some pics as well!

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Well, for anyone interested in this camera, here are some photos as well..

http://picasaweb.google.com/10992572...84615196629618

They're cropped down from full res. to 1280x960 @ 75% jpg image quality.
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Well, for anyone interested in this camera, here are some photos as well..

http://picasaweb.google.com/10992572...84615196629618

They're cropped down from full res. to 1280x960 @ 75% jpg image quality.
For a ruggedized camera, I think the images look very good.
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