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Old Jun 8, 2010, 4:47 AM   #71
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So it would appear that, as I write post #65, that we are back once again at the beginning. So please help us out won't you. We are happy to handle all of your questions, but the constant camera switching is becoming slightly mind boggling!

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I have talked about a few cameras on here and i am wrong not to take your advice and buy immediately? I don't want to jump straight into buying the first one that is recommended!

It is great to talk about all the different models and get as much help as possible.

Obviously you are not happy as this is going on and on but i have seen other cameras, reviews and just wanted to ask more questions!
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Old Jun 8, 2010, 7:23 AM   #72
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There are lots of reasons to buy one camera over another. There are also lots of reasons NOT to buy a used dSLR. The questions you've been posting have almost always been about whether you should buy this new or that used. The merits of the individual cameras hardly ever becomes part of the conversation, because many of us here have suggested to you on multiple occasions that buying a used dSLR is not a good idea.

I think the problem we're having is that, instead of asking us what is the best camera for you, you've been asking which of two cameras is the better buy, a new X or a used Y. Perhaps if you could tell us what you want to take photos of, we could tell you what cameras would be a good match, and then you could just search for the best deal on one of those cameras that has the ergonomics you like best (or can live with, at least.)

Do you want to shoot sports/action/wildlife?
Do you want to shoot landscape/seascape/cityscape?
Do want to do macrophotography, portraiture, or event photography?

Give us a hint.
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I hear people going on about Lens Motor issues with D5000? Whats that all about, and 2ndly are Lens's expensive for the Nikon? I as as i would love to get a nice zoom that has a decent range and can be left on the camera and used for most shots.
The lens motor issues can be a issue as you get more lenses. The ones with motors tend to be more expensive.
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Old Jun 8, 2010, 12:12 PM   #74
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I respectfully disagree, shoturtle-

The OP's needs can be easily handled by the Nikon 18-88mm VR and the 55-200mm VR lenses, both of which are inexpensive costing less that $200 each.

Sure, if you want a Sigma 30mm F 1.4 lens, that will be around $400, but that is not excessive for that quality lens. I own 2 Nikon D-5000 cameras.

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AF 50mm 1.8 is 120 dollars, AF-s 50mm is 450 and the sigma version is 500. And the lower price macro lenses will not focus so you need to spend 450 for the AF-s version.

Certain lenses like the 55-200mm is like the canon 55-250. They are good lenses. But all plastic construction to keep cost down. And they are bang for the buck lenses.
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The augment that the af-s 35mm 1.8 is a better lens for the aps-c a moot point, 120 dollars for the non af-s 50 vs 190 for the af-s 35mm. You are still spending more money.
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There are lots of reasons to buy one camera over another. There are also lots of reasons NOT to buy a used dSLR. The questions you've been posting have almost always been about whether you should buy this new or that used. The merits of the individual cameras hardly ever becomes part of the conversation, because many of us here have suggested to you on multiple occasions that buying a used dSLR is not a good idea.

I think the problem we're having is that, instead of asking us what is the best camera for you, you've been asking which of two cameras is the better buy, a new X or a used Y. Perhaps if you could tell us what you want to take photos of, we could tell you what cameras would be a good match, and then you could just search for the best deal on one of those cameras that has the ergonomics you like best (or can live with, at least.)

Do you want to shoot sports/action/wildlife?
Do you want to shoot landscape/seascape/cityscape?
Do want to do macrophotography, portraiture, or event photography?

Give us a hint.
Check out post 61. I said in that post that i was now only going to buy new.

Only 3 DSLR's have taken my fancy now:

A230
D3000
D5000

Looked at them today in a shop and the A230 was so light and was not as solid as the Nikons. The Nikons felt like proper cameras.

What worries me is people saying that you have to buy a motorised lens for the Nikon which are very costly!

I don't think i would be buying a lens anytime soon as i am used to 3x on a compact and that has been fine.

I will, maybe in several months time, would like to buy a nice zoom for the camera. A mid range one. So, if i did buy the Nikon, what are my options?

Now, out of the 3 cameras, i did like the D3000 and the D5000.

I would be using the camera for all aspects of general photography for now. Family pics, holidays, garden, etc etc. Nothing specialised.

What would you say, if i were to choose a Nikon, would be the best camera, for my needs, out of the 2 above? The D5000 would be really stretching my budget but i would do so if i thought i was getting a camera that would be a better bet than the D3000.

In your view guys, D3000 or D5000? I feel as though, after handling the cameras today, that the A230 is now out of the picture, for now!!! lol

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If you are looking at the Nikon D-3000, you also ought to look at the Pentax Kx and the Canon XS.

The Nikon D-5000 is a good camera and it uses lenses that must have a motor in it, just like the D-3000. So the lens situation exists on both the D-3000 and the D-5000 Nikon cameras.

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The Nikon 55-200 AF-S VR is a good, inexpensive, medium telephoto, zoom lens, but it does have a problem with vignetting. The Nikon 70-300 AF-S VR is better, but costs a lot more. Tamron and Sigma have the 70-300 Di LD and 70-300 APO (respectively) that are less expensive, and do 1:2 macro, but they're not stabilized.
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In your view guys, D3000 or D5000? I feel as though, after handling the cameras today, that the A230 is now out of the picture, for now!!! lol
If you want a bit larger camera with a better grip (as well as better battery life, faster speed of operation, higher usable ISO speeds, and more features compared to the entry level A230), look at the Sony A450, A500 and A550 models instead.

In the UK, it looks like you can buy the Sony A450 with the 18-55mm lens for around 499 and the A500 with a lens for around 529 at vendors like Currys and Jessops (about what you'd pay for a D5000 with an 18-55mm VR lens). Personally, I'd lean towards the A450 (it would have everything you'd get with the A550 except for a tilting LCD and fast Autofocus Live View).

But, if Live View is a big deal to you and you want fast Autofocus with it (the A450 only has MF check Live View, which is a contrast detect system using the main imaging sensor, which is what you'd have with other dSLR brands), I'd look at the A500 and A550 instead. The A500 and A550 would have very fast Autofocus with Live View compared to other dSLR brands (thanks to the separate Live View sensors in their Viewfinder housings that lets them use Fast Phase Detect Autofocus with their dedicated AF sensors).

Then, see how they feel to you compared to the Nikon models you're looking at.

In the Nikon lineup, between the D3000 and D5000, I'd lean towards the D5000 for more flexibility in more conditions (as well as better performance with more features). The Nikon D5000 is using a better Sony 12MP CMOS Sensor with higher usable ISO speeds as compared to the Nikon D3000 (which uses a Sony 10MP CCD sensor).
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