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Old Jun 12, 2010, 7:38 PM   #11
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i'd probably say the pentax k-x would be a good choice (won tipa 2010 best entry dslr) - you can get good normal zoom and get the stablisation without spending a fortune - you have one of if not the best low light performer

pentax has plenty of very nice glass to compliment it and lots of 3rd party too - flash system is more universally compatible than sony

and top it off its cheaper than the a550 and has hd video only 720 but still hd which i dont think the sony does
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Old Jun 13, 2010, 3:36 AM   #12
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Obviously I am going to be biased as just a few days ago I bought the Canon 550D but it is amazing. It is the best thing I have ever shot with. it feels great in your hands and has a great user interface. if you have any questions about the camera just let me know.
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Old Jun 13, 2010, 4:45 AM   #13
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Since I am wearing glasses I never got to like a view finder, but always preferred the screen, so the live view performance is very relevant to me.
I wouldn't place too much emphasis on the live view functionality. To use liveview effectively, you have to hold the camera away from your body. In doing so you introduce camera shake. A dSLR is different than a P&S in that its much larger in size and weight, thus your arms very quickly will become unable to hold the unit still while you compose your picture. The viewfinder is useful simply because it forces you to hold the camera body up to your eye, pulling the camera in and holding it in such a way as to be more stable. Liveview's usefulness is primary in situations where you are unable to get your eye to the viewfinder - for instance, when on a tripod.

I too wear glasses, and although not perfectly ideal, works very well - much better than attempting to hold the unit out in front of me.

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Old Jun 13, 2010, 4:55 AM   #14
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Thanks for so many valuable replys!

The comments about the D90 are in line with my feelings. The aim of this discussion is to narrow down my set of choices so I 'd say the D90 is out of the game.

An owner of A550 saying he'd prefer the 550D makes me think... I will go and check if I could live with primarily using the view finder. If the answer was yes then also the A550 would be out.

So for now let's suppose the requirements for live view are reduced, then I am down to K-x or 550D.
As a next step I will try to define a package for each containing the lenses. I will get back with my results; in the mean time further comments are welcome.

By the way, typically I will use highest quality JPEG, not RAW, and I will not spend time to edit images on the PC, but rather use them as they are delivered by the camera. Does this influence the choice between those cameras?

Again, thanks,
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Old Jun 13, 2010, 5:34 AM   #15
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I am a jpeg shooter of a 500D but shoot the k-x quite a bit. And both have very good photos. I have change the settings on my canon to do more in camera processing.

The K-x does not have a mini hdmi port like the 550D, as I see that was something your were interested in.

But if you want to see what the k-x and canon 500d can do in low light check this link out. The 550D should be very close to the 500D in image quality.

http://forums.steves-digicams.com/ge...canon-t1i.html
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Old Jun 13, 2010, 5:40 AM   #16
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Here is some photos of the k-x with a one click enhancement of the jpeg with my editing software.

http://forums.steves-digicams.com/wi...birds-nyc.html

Here are some photos from the 500D with in camera sharping, contrast and saturation increase and a 1 click enhancement, the 550D should be close to these results.

http://forums.steves-digicams.com/pe...ueens-nyc.html

Also with pretty much every brand dslr but olympus, to get better jpeg results. A quick run through an editing program with your jpeg will give you better color and contrast. I hate editing, but a one click in my jpeg management and edit software does a excellent job. Olympus is the only brand that the jpeg results are great out the camera. I shoot canon, pentax, and olympus.
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all of the camera comes with a 18-55mm 3.5-5.6 kit lens except for the nikon which comes with at 18-105. 2.8 will be an additional purchase. As Tcav mention expensive.

All the kit lenses are pretty good, my experience with the pentax and canon 18-55 is that they are both very sharp and good performing lens. Canon, sony and Pentax has a 2 lens kit. Canon comes with the has a 55-250, sony a 55-200 and pentax gives you and option of 55-200 or 55-300. The canon 55-250 has good reach and is pretty sharp. The pentax 55-300 is an excellent lens very sharp on the long end and gives you the most reach form the group. It also focuses very fast also. I would opt for the 55-300 over the 55-200, it seem to be a sharper lens with greater reach for about 50 dollars more. A real deal.

No experience with the sony 55-200mm lens. With the nikon you can add the 70-300 4.5-5.6 to the kit lens for 460 dollars. Which is also a good lens.

But you will not find any long zoom that states at 3.5 in a budget price, most start to f4. 2.8 is available with a 70-200mm but that is very expensive.
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no they do not have a good selection of telephotos, only 1 the 70-300, the rest are megazooms. Not as good as a short tele and a long tele. And the 70-300 is 700 vs 550 for a canon 70-300mm with IS.
The Sony 70-200 'G', 70-300 'G', 70-400 'G', 100/2.8 Macro, Zeiss 85/1.4, Zeiss 135/1.8, 300/2.8 'G', and 500/8 Reflex, best (or at least match) similar lenses from Canon and Nikon, they're all stabilized on a Sony dSLR body, and Pentax has few lenses in the same class.

And that doesn't include all the uniquely Minolta lenses on the used market, like the 70-210/4.0 'Beercan', the 75-300 Macro 'Big Beercan', the 80-200/2.8 'G', the 100-300 APO, the 100-400 APO, the 100/2, 200/2.8 'G', 200/4.0 Macro, and the 300 'G', 400 'G' and 600 'G' lenses, all of which, again, are stabilized on a Sony dSLR body.
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No experience with the sony 55-200mm lens. ...
The Sony 55-200 is optically identical to the Tamron 55-200, which is quite a good lens for the money, though the Sony is more expensive and has a shorter warranty.
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So I did another bit of Internet research and concluded on these options:

Pentax K-x with
a) Pentax DA L 17-55mm f3.5-5.6 + DA L 55-300mm f4.0-5.8 (Kit) = EUR 739
b) Tamron SP-AF17-50 F/2,8 XR Di II LD + Pentax DA 55-300mm f4.0-5.8 = EUR 1140

The Tamrom 17-50 has better aperture and better reviews than the Pentax.
TCav mentioned the Tamrom without IS is better than the same with IS, but I found reviews indicating the opposite. It seems the older one
without IS has a high variation in quality, so I am a little uncertain here...
The Pentax DA is slightly better equipped than the kit's DA L. The DA 55-300m seems to do well considering the price. Also recommended by you.


Canon T2i / 550D with
c) Canon EF-S 18-55mm 3.5-5.6 IS + EF-S 55-250mm 4.0-5.6 IS DZ (Kit) = EUR 1080
d) Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4.0 DC Makro OS HSM + Canon EF 70-300 1:4-5.6 IS USM = EUR 1500
e) Tamron SP AF 17-50 mm F/2.8 XR Di II VC LD Aspherical + Canon EF-S 55-250 mm 4-5.6 IS = EUR 1280


If I chose the K-x I would go for option b - good by illusion of a cheap solution... ;-)

With the Canon it is more difficult; option d is supposed to be very good, but it also costs a lot. Do you have experience with these lenses? Are they clearly superior in real live compared to the ones from option c or e?

What about the Tamron and the Canon kit lense?

Any other lenses recommend that I missed?

Thanks for your time and all the good advice,
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