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Old Jul 2, 2010, 3:03 PM   #11
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the panasonic 45-200 is available at adorama for 280 dollar.

http://www.adorama.com/IPC45200.html
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Old Jul 2, 2010, 3:31 PM   #12
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Okay. I think I'm just about sold. I'm going to go take a look at the camera this weekend... maybe even tonight. B&H has a refurb E-PL1 with kit lens for $459, which seems like a great deal to me, and I found that Adorama is selling the Panny lens for $280. It's a perfect kit, I think, and I'm impressed with your Paris and Zoo pics with the E-PL1. (And by the way, the meerkat pic, is awesome, even if not shot with the E-PL1.) I may even prowl for the Panny 20mm 1.7 too.

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Here is a meerkat taken with the epl-1
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Old Jul 4, 2010, 2:59 PM   #14
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I'd go with a super zoom picked from Steve's "best cameras" list. Unless you are a pro, on a safari you don't want to be trying to change lenses as a giraffe runs by! If you want raw capability, the Lumix line does that, but don't go for the older models if you want good low light performance. If you can find a Canon SX1 IS have a look at it. Raw, CMOS, and full HD all for under $600 new. For a lower budget yet, there is a firmware hack that will open raw shooting on the Canon SX10, which are going for around $300 used. It might also work on the SX20..not sure.

Don't worry about the bokeh... you can do a perfectly acceptable background blur on the computer if you want to go the distance. Here's a computer generated bokeh from a shot I took last night with my Canon SX10 IS:

original:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/warrenpix/4761202892/
with cg bokeh:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/warrenpix/4760776233/

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Old Jul 4, 2010, 3:21 PM   #15
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Here's a raven also shot with the Canon SX10 IS straight out of the camera:

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That looks really good, Warren-

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Thanks, I think he was posing for me.. either that or he thought the camera was food!
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Oh, and here's one I took with the HS-10

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Beautiful! Nice capture.
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Look, it all depends on where you think you're going to be focussing here.

If your most treasured memories are going to be of the people and scenery with wildlife a secondary focus and happy to get the best you can within a portable and reasonably priced system, then m4/3 is a good bet.

If your primary aim is to take good wildlife pics, then you will be better off renting a big DSLR rig and some hefty lenses. Don't forget to practice first. A lot. Good wildlife photography is very hard. Even spending a ton of cash on equipment is no guarantee that you will get anything particularly worthy on a single trip - so much depends on luck and how good your guide is.

If you just want some snaps then a superzoom is fine.

I'm afraid I don't find the wildlife pictures posted so far in this thread to be particularly convincing reasons to go with a P&S. YMMV of course.

For myself I think that if you are not going to be trying to sell the pictures afterwards, then the very best way to record wildlife trips is to use a camcorder with a big zoom. Take a long a nice m4/3 or S90 for people and scenery.
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