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Old Oct 11, 2010, 11:05 AM   #21
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Thank you Jim, 35mm sounds better but those prices are insanely high.
Actually, they're very inexpensive for a brighter prime in that focal length.

Fast primes wider than 50mm are not cheap (with some exceptions like the ones I just mentioned). At around $200, those Nikon and Sony 35mm f/1.8 lenses are about as inexpensive as you'll find in lenses brighter than f/2.8 that are shorter than 50mm.

An even brighter Sony 35mm f/1.4 sells for over $1300. ;-)

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...uctId=11039113

Yet, you can get the new Sony 35mm f/1.8 for only $199.99

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...52921666254721

Note that Sony's DT series lenses are only designed to give optimum performance on dSLR models with APS-C size sensors (all models except for the A850 and A900). So, that helps to keep costs down (versus a lens like the 35mm f/1.4 that allows full resolution images on models with either sensor type), since the image circle projected doesn't need to be as large as you'd need on a camera with a 35mm film size sensor. Ditto for Nikon's DX series lenses like their Nikkor 35mm f/1.8 DX AF-S Lens (their DX series lenses are designed for models using APS-C size sensors).

Personally, I use a Minolta 28mm f/2 AF lens with a Sony dSLR if I want a brighter prime in closer quarters. But, one of those would run you close to $500 used. Here's an example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Minolta-Maxxum-2...item41537f4a9b

A Minolta 35mm f/2 AF lens would probably run you even more (it's a harder to find lens)

At only about $329 brand new, the Canon 35mm f/2 is a good deal in comparison. ;-)

So, at around $199, the new Sony 35mm f/1.8 DT SAM and Nikkor 35mm f/1.8 AF-S DX lenses are very good deals if you want a prime (fixed focal length versus zoom lens) in that focal length that's brighter than f/2.8 (and f/2.8 is the widest aperture you'd find in a zoom lens for the Nikon and Sony models you're looking at, so if you want brighter than f/2.8, you'll need a prime).

As the old saying goes...

Fast (bright), Good, Cheap. Pick any two. ;-)
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Old Oct 11, 2010, 7:02 PM   #22
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I am wondering if any of the above mentioned DSLR cameras have extended zoom ability, as in lower the resolution to zoom further into a subject?
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Old Oct 11, 2010, 7:24 PM   #23
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No, DSLR cameras do not have provision for extended zoom. That is a feature of small imager P+S cameras.

However, you can easily purchase a Sony 55-200mm lens for around $100, a Minolta 50mm F 1.7 lens that will fit the Sony A mount for around $75, both on E-bay. You can also purchase a Tamron Di 70-300mm lens for around $160. So you can see these lenses are considerably less in price than you might normally would expect. The natural question is how good are those lenses? They are all very good quality lenses, that I personally use with my Sony A-500.

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Old Oct 11, 2010, 7:42 PM   #24
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If reach a concern, the pentax is the better option. As you get a good zoom with the 55-300. If you get the 2 lens kit for around 700 dollar, it will a very allot less expensive then the sony and getting a 70-300 after wards. As the 70-300G is 700 dollars. There are 3rd party 70-300, but they are either more expensive the the pentax or the low price ones do not preform as well.
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Old Oct 11, 2010, 8:09 PM   #25
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I do not like Pentax because of AA batteries.. the rechargables I have used earlier, usually run out of power in about 50 shots unless this has somehow been fixed.
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sanyo eneloop low discharge rechargeable AA with a full change will take 1100 no flash shots and about 700 with a mix. They have fixed it.
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The Tamron Di 70-300mm for the Sony mount is a great long zoom and sells for around $170.00 not $600.00. No worry about needing IS, because the Sony has in body IS.

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Old Oct 11, 2010, 10:06 PM   #28
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no it is not a great zoom it is really soft from 200-300mm. It is the best of the bottom of the barrel for the sub 200 dollar lens. I have used it and it okay for a bottom of the barrel lens.
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Please folks, the OP has repeated said he doesn't need a telephoto lens.

In fact it's not even clear he needs a zoom at all.

A fast fixed 50mm or 35mm equivalent will probably do him just fine.

Which actually makes me wonder whether something like a Panasonic GF1 or Olympus EPL-1 with the Panasonic 20mm f1.7 would be ideal.
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Thanks, Craig-

You cleared the air and got the thread back on track.

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