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Old Oct 10, 2010, 10:13 PM   #1
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Camera requirements

Compact point and shoot.
10x Optical zoom or better
Wide angle of 28 mm or lower
10 megapixels or better
Shutter lag of 1/10 sec or less when prefocused
Shutter lag of 4/10 sec or less with autofocus
Image stabilization
Optical zoom and focus while doing video
Shot to shot delay with flash < 5 seconds (under worse conditions)
Shot to shot delay without flash < 1 second (under worse conditions)
Fully automatic to full manual controls
Great images (indoor and outdoor)
Acceptable images up to a minimum ISO of 800

Is it out there???

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Old Oct 10, 2010, 10:22 PM   #2
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Juggernaut-

You realize of course that the Canon SX-130 meets all those requirements +/- .5 second.

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Old Oct 10, 2010, 10:28 PM   #3
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Presumably by compact, you mean pocket sized in which case the answer is no, it doesn't exist. The obsession over the shutter lag time would be tough to even discuss since who actually times these things on a compact P&S?

Great indoor images? (presume you mean without flash) Well now you're limited to only a handful of compact cams (the ones with the 1/1.6-1.7" sensors) and none of them have 10x zoom. These same cameras are the only ones that really look decent up to ISO 800. Forget about "minimum ISO 800." That's about the best you're going to do with them. You could do 4x6/5x7 at ISO 1600 with these cams but that's about it.
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Old Oct 11, 2010, 12:52 PM   #4
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You realize of course that the Canon SX-130 meets all those requirements +/- .5 second.

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Hi Sarah,



Except for the shot to shot time with the flash I would say I agree.

I did find another review that said the shot to shot time with the flash was 10 seconds also.

Perhaps you missed my question previously, but I had inquired as to whether the shot to shot time you were getting with the flash was either with the zoom or when focusing on a far away object - those were the situations when the shot to shot time was 12 seconds for me.

What is your shot to shot time when using the zoom and the flash?
How about the shot to shot with the flash for an object that is not close by?

I am dreading the possibility that I will only get one picture of the kids while they are playing around if the shot to shot time is so slow.

Perhaps it is the power-source that makes all the difference?
Why did Steve say 4.5 seconds?
Why did you experience 5 seconds?
Why did another review say 10 seconds?
Why did I experience 12 seconds?
-Huge difference between the best and the worse here, so why such a difference? Perhaps it was range to the target? Perhaps it was the use of zoom?

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Perhaps it is the power-source that makes all the difference?
Why did Steve say 4.5 seconds?
Why did you experience 5 seconds?
Why did another review say 10 seconds?
Why did I experience 12 seconds?
-Huge difference between the best and the worse here, so why such a difference? Perhaps it was range to the target? Perhaps it was the use of zoom?
It's the fact there is absolutely no scientific method in any of these figures.
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Far away?

The flash on any small camera like that is good for a distance of no more than 10ft or so.

Recycle times on $500 external flashes for DSLRs can often be 1-2 seconds if you're doing any kind of sustained burst.

Even $2,000+ studio rigs sometimes need time to recharge and cannot sustain sub-second recycle times indefinitely.

I'm not sure what kind of performance you were expecting, but I'd suggest your expectations are a little unrealistic.
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Except for the flash requirement being that fast the Fuji HS10 meets most of those requirements; but the best results from that camera are not in the auto mode...... wants you start to learn to use the camera its a really great workhorse of a camera

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Perhaps, my consistent 5 second shot to shot time is due to the batteries that I use. I use the 2800Mamp batteries, which are the most powerful that I can find.

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Perhaps, my consistent 5 second shot to shot time is due to the batteries that I use. I use the 2800Mamp batteries, which are the most powerful that I can find.

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Hi Sarah,

Are you saying that under no circumstances are you getting shot to shot delays while using the flash of more than 5-6 seconds - even if you are shooting something as far as 10 feet away, or if you are using the zoom?

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My 5 to 6 second shot to shot times are with two 1.6 volt Power GenX brand AA batteries focused from 10 to 15 feet.

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