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Old Nov 16, 2010, 2:52 PM   #61
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the da 55-300mm is a very good lens optically sadly its not one of the weather sealed ones - a lot of people have been asking for a weather sealed version of it but whether or not pentax will oblige or not is anyones guess
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Old Nov 16, 2010, 2:55 PM   #62
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Depends on which one, the 70-200 F4L is a 700 dollar lens and is super sharp. And it is weather sealed.

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ah but the canon 70-200mm is over twice the price of the da* 60-250mm - though it is a stop faster but has less of a focal length range
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Old Nov 16, 2010, 3:00 PM   #63
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the da 55-300mm is a very good lens optically sadly its not one of the weather sealed ones - a lot of people have been asking for a weather sealed version of it but whether or not pentax will oblige or not is anyones guess
ok then again which of the following is the best buy?

1) K-5 with 18-55 WR: $1700 / 1250 ... link: http://www.dustinhome.se/pd_5010484358.aspx
2) K-5 with 18-55 WR and 50-200 WR: $1950 / 1450 ... link: http://www.dustinhome.se/pd_5010484359.aspx

is 50-200 worth the extra 250 USD or should I wait until weather sealed 55-300 comes? I am sure it will cost considerable more...
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The da 55-300 is a much better lens the the 50-200 WR. But if you are shooting action it is okay, not great just okay. As they are not the fast focusing lenses.
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Well I know that with the T1i, I have shot it at -5c in the winter in germany, and it worked without a problem. The canon and nikon rating are very conservative.

But like all camera, the batteries will not last as long in the cold. But to keep the batteries working, keep one inside your coat, so your body temp will keep it warm, and it will let it work better. This simple solution for a cold battery.

With what you listed. I would get the none WR lens 55-300 as it is a better optical lens then the 50-200mm. Just take some simple precaution like getting a camera cover and that will let you shoot in a downpour. Something like this

http://www.amazon.com/Kata-Large-Dig.../dp/B0001VB1QU

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Then 60D is clearly out of my choices, as a range of 0-40 degrees means that I can't use the camera outside for at least 4 or 5 months in sweden lol... pity, as I was really regarding it... .

D7000 and K-5 are remaining... and I am really astonished at the videos John posted... I mean imagine you just need to check if every input is closed and well-sealed, then then voila... I really should confess K-5 has caught my eyes...the only think i really wanted to be better with it was the second les, or more generally the weather sealed lens option. I would be happy if I could have at least a range of up to 300...

Here are my buy options with K-5:

1) K-5 with 18-55 WR: $1700 / 1250€ ... link: http://www.dustinhome.se/pd_5010484358.aspx
2) K-5 with 18-55 WR and 50-200 WR: $1950 / 1450 € ... link: http://www.dustinhome.se/pd_5010484359.aspx
3) K-5 with 18-55 WR and DA 55-300 ED: $2170 / 1600€ .... link to Pentax DA-55-300 : http://www.dustinhome.se/pd_5010166429.aspx

as I understand from your posts, DA lens is even better weather sealed than WR version?

Which option is best?

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yeah i agree option 3 - but then thats from my perspective and i would prioritise the better optical quality and reach of the 55-300 over the weather sealing - but if you looked at a couple of pcitures i linked the 50-200 is not a bad lens by any means so if weather sealing for all occasions is nessesary then the 50-200 isn't that much more to the overall package

you could check ebay too might pick up a 50-200mm WR cheap from someone who has upgraded to the 60-250mm - i really dont think waiting for then 55-300mm to come out in WR version is a good idea - yeah it could be released tomorrow or it might never appear
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Before we get overboard on models and brand some more, can you define more of what you like to shoot, and what you might to expand your shooting to?
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Before we get overboard on models and brand some more, can you define more of what you like to shoot, and what you might to expand your shooting to?
sure... First of all I would like to shoot portrait/people and landscape/nature... but then I would like to have my camera with me everyday in my bag and shoot everything I consider as interesting as I spend my life-hours... I want to take my camera to every party I go, too
But then I expect myself to learn and improve fast enough to get some good photos. And who knows, maybe I send some decent ones to some competetions too

Almost everyday of my life I work with professional video production and thus cameras, as I work for a TV channel. But DSLR photography, njaaa...I have never done it. So this is completely new for me, and I am very enthusiastic about it now.

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Well I travel allot, and the most versital system would be a canon or nikon. The pentax is okay if you end up shooting some action. But you will quick find that the Pentax lenses do not shoot action as well as nikon or canon.

I shoot a pentax k-x and have play with the k-r, which has the same AF as the k-5. Though it is better, it is still not as good as the d7000 or the 60D. So for shooting everything under the sun and moon the nikon and canon options are better.
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ok first things first - the k5 autofocus is not the same as the k-r's it has the + designation meaning it has a light wavelength sensor meaning autofocus is more accurate

and early tests show its autofocus continous is as good infact slightly better than the d7000 and 60d

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/p...o-focus-c.html - from reading test results might not be 100% but clearly is in the same ball park

the only area the pentax lens line up is abit weaker is for long range action but unless your talking about spending 5000 or more on a lens, for which yes canon and nikon do have such beasts, then the pentax line up is as good
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