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Old Nov 20, 2010, 8:05 PM   #11
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yes it can be
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... but the D3100 is a fine camera in many respects, and if it can do what you want, it should serve you well.
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Old Nov 20, 2010, 9:05 PM   #13
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nikon splits their camera's into 2 groups. Ones with built in AF motors, and ones that do not. The low cost lenses do not have built in AF motors. So camera like the d5000, d3000 and d3100 will not auto focus with it.
There are a few low-cost AF-S lenses, including:

$189 35mm 1.8G
$100-ish 18-55mm kit
$175 18-55mm
$290 18-105mm
$360 55-300mm
(approx. pricing online)

Some make a big deal about EOS compatibility but when I was picking between the D3xxx/D5xxx I found no 35mm 1.8G Canon equivalent for anywhere near the $189 price. I have an old 50mm 1.8 FD and it's no more useful to a T2i than a 50mm 1.4 or 1.8D is on the D3000/D3100/D5000.
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we are taking about primes, and there is only one on your list.
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And I can spit out low price sub 400 dollar primes with canon that can double you list which includes zooms. And if I add zooms, the list would be even longer.
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I'm not really interested in brand wars, nor did I make any assertions about either brand having more lenses. I was simply listing sub-$400 Nikon AF-S lenses in response to the statement: "The low cost lenses do not have built in AF motors."

I'm sure there are plenty of good Canon lenses of all types and prices, just no sub-$200 AF 1.8 primes. I think that if you're going to advise someone asking about Nikon cheap primes, it's important to point out the 35mm. To my knowledge, there's no $200 Canon equivalent - please correct me if I'm wrong.

From what I could tell, this thread was not strictly about prime lenses, either.
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Actually you can get couple of the 2.8 for under 200 dollar, 28mm 2.8 and the 50mm 2.5 macro. It just where you can find a deal.

The poster ask if it can be an disadvantage, and the honest answer is that it could be.
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Yes, it could be a disadvantage - but it does depend on the buyer and their use. It'll matter less to newcomers to the DSLR world than it would those of us who have lenses lying around of one form or another.

As a former D90, D3100 and now D5000 owner, I'm pretty familiar with the drive motor issue, but that's what you get when you buy a camera with a $699 (or less) pricetag for the full kit. There are concessions to be had with everything. My D5000 with 35mm 1.8G - from a local camera shop, not online - was a bit over $900. The D3100 would've been about $50 less than that with the deal they offered.

If going Canon, I'd definitely go T2i over T1i. Get in on that nice 18MP sensor and no rolling shutter jellocam.
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But that is not a decision I am making, it is something the buyer needs to decide. The 35 1.8 is a nice lens, but the range might not be right. I can not decide that. There are times a 35mm will work, and time it is just to short. That is the decision of the end user.

T1i or T2i you still have the rolling shutter jellocam. None of the dslr has really solved it. But the post is not concern with HD video, she had a camcorder for that.
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The buyer needs input on which lenses will be better for which scenarios. For wider zoomed-out view, 35mm. For more zoom/tighter view, 50mm. The difference won't be such that a few steps either way won't make the difference (indoors). 1.8 vs. 2.8 is a bit of a difference, though. You're going to be going higher into ISO range or needing lower shutter speed to make up for the 1 1/3 stops difference.

The T1i and T2i have different sensors. I haven't checked T1i rolling shutter tests but the ones I've seen of the T2i are better than other crop sensor DSLRs I've seen.
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