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Old May 9, 2011, 1:22 PM   #11
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The nx lenses are about the same size as the nex lens, but much better quality glass. Not soft like the 2 kit lens for the nex. Yes since they are aps-c the lenses will be larger then m4/3. APS-c is not full size but 1.5x vs 2x of m4/3. Full frame is full size.

The iso ability of the nx is not as good as the nex. The samsung sensor is not as good as the sony sensor.
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Old May 9, 2011, 9:56 PM   #12
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Hi Loch,

Thought I'd add a few examples to clarify what mode I use and when. Bear in mind, all of these are jpegs. The first 2 were taken in Auto mode. They are pretty much out of the camera as I did no color adjustments. I did do some sharpening on the first and then toned down the sharpening on the 2nd. Pretty much to my taste.






When I take photos of flowers, I'm typically in manual mode. Logic being, I want to control depth of field to get as much of the flower in focus as I can. Also I'm interested in a certain lighting affect- I don't want it too bright because I'd like to capture the petal detail.



The last is a 4 frame panorama stitched together. Manual mode is important here because I'd like to control the exposure and metering across the 4frames.



I hope the examples help in answering when I use auto vs manual modes.
As for Jpegs vs RAW, to be honest the EPL-1 does such a good job of getting every ounce of detail into a jpeg file that there isn't a lot of reason for me to use RAW.

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Old May 11, 2011, 10:48 PM   #13
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Thank you all for taking the time to answer my questions so thoroughly.

I finally found a store with in a reasonable distance that carries the NX100, so I was able to assuage my curiosity. I did like it, but not nearly as much as I thought I would reading about the concept. I was surprised to find that the Ifunction button did not fall easily to hand for me, or maybe I hold my cameras funny - who knows, but I had to keep tilting the camera to find the button!

The store had the NX100, GF2, and EPL1, but no EPL2. I did not have much time with them, but I really liked the feel and size of the GF2. However, the drawback is I was surprised to find the lens is significantly bigger than the EPL1s, and I have read the jpegs are not as good ooc. I know I could use the Oly lens on it, but then I would have no stabilization.

Does anyone know if the EPL2 has a less 'boxy' feel than the EPL1? Due to finding out one of my rescues (dogs) needs cruciate ligament surgery budget is now $800. I was thinking EPL1 with the 14-42 and 40-200 two lens kit, or the EPL2 with the new 14-42 kit lens. Both those options are $549 allowing money towards a prime (I am hoping they come out with the 25mm 1.4 I have heard about as I am most comfortable with the 50mm fl). The other option is the GF2 with 14mm but that obviously is less flexible.

I appreciate the examples Zig - it did clarify your settings and your pictures really appeal to me. BTW, don't know where you are but reminds me of when I used to visit family in New England.
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the epl2 is less boxy, and has and more define grip. It does make it a bit easier to hold for larger hand people.

the olympus kit lens 14-42 and 40-150 is a good combo. If you need more reach but a little slower AF the panasonic 45-200 is also a nice lens lens to consider.

One more thing about the gf2 or gf1, neither will shoot well pas 800iso. It really gets noise pass that. While the Olympus can shoot well upto 1600-2000 iso, just a little less the the NEX you had.
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The EPL1 is the ugly duckling of the Olympus m4/3 brood. If it had been less ugghh I would probably have bought one and now be agonising over whether to sell it to get an X100. More sensible people bought one anyway because it was a great camera or probably because they are ugly themselves and figured an ugly camera would distract attention from their features. (You know who you are!)

The EPL2 is expressing the normal pretty genes of the Olympus cameras and is perfectly safe to buy.
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The EPL1 is the ugly duckling of the Olympus m4/3 brood. If it had been less ugghh I would probably have bought one and now be agonising over whether to sell it to get an X100. More sensible people bought one anyway because it was a great camera or probably because they are ugly themselves and figured an ugly camera would distract attention from their features. (You know who you are!)

The EPL2 is expressing the normal pretty genes of the Olympus cameras and is perfectly safe to buy.
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I do have one more question for you all. I was comparing the EPL1/2 on imaging-resource this morning and found that when looking at their high ISO pics with 100% crops at 1600 and 3200, the EPL1 is notably more sharp, detailed, and has more contrast.

Is this an indication that the EPL1 handles low light better, or if one was to turn off or reduce noise reduction in the EPL2 and up the sharpness in camera, could jpeg results indistinguishable from the EPL1 be expected? Can you even change the amount of noise reduction applied to jpegs in the EPL2?

BTW, they also make the new G3 look quite nice compared to previous m4/3 Panys in the high ISO department as well as nicer colors in jpegs (but I can't wait for that one).

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It might be in camera processing that is the difference. They might have set the default to a lower level.
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The cameras have the same sensor, any differences must be tweaks to the processing engine.
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