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Old Jun 28, 2011, 12:44 AM   #11
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I'm sorry I should have clarified - I want to shoot natural light as much as possible, but definitely will be purchasing a good flash for indoor use & fill for either camera I purchase. I know Nikon has limited AF-S, but since I don't have previous lens history, isn't it growing enough for my needs (35mm f/1.8 VR, 50mm VR, 70-300mm, etc)? Sorry I'm playing devil's advocate here- I don't know why I feel so predisposed to Nikon. (Maybe subliminal advertising since my youth?)

Anyhow, I've been testing the D5100 today and will get the 60D tomorrow for testing. I like the size of D5100, but didn't like how the menu setup is. Unfortunately, I don't know enough to really test all aspects.

While I may be predisposed to think Nikon is better fit, I really want to fall in love with the 60D. Thanks again for all your replies, you really are a help!
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In this case the 60D is better. It is a higher grade camera.

But when you put nikon and canon at the same level together like the t3i or t2i, then nikon and canon are equal. Each does some things better then others. Canon does better in the AF department and much better HD setup, while nikon has a little better DR and a little bit better noise at high iso. So if you put a T3i/600D next to a d5100, it is comes down to which ones strength do you prefer or short coming you can not live with.

Lenses, you do lose out on all the nikon lens option, but there are a decent amount of AF-s series lenses to choose from. The new af-s 50 1.8 is pretty good and is about 270 granted it is 150 more then the AF 50 1.8, and the 70-300 is a good lens as well in the 450 range. So if you are predispose to the nikon for the name, it is a good camera.
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I wouldn't pay too much attention to how the menu is laid out - you'll soon become accustomed to it and it will become second nature, no matter which brand you buy.
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Old Jun 29, 2011, 10:45 AM   #14
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Well, I was in the store to compare, and a girl moving to Philippines said she wanted the 60D, but didn't want to spend much over $1000. I told her about the deal online, and she excitedly jumped on it, making the store match price.
When I came back the next day to purchase, the deal had been removed and they wouldn't match, even though I still had printout of it. Apparently, it was an error online. Even though I missed the deal, at least I helped someone else get it!
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yeah, the body alone is 900 dollars, the 28-135 is 300 and the 55-250 is 250. So you help her save well over 500 dollars.

With that that price the store lost out big. I would not be surprise if they had meant the t3i/600d with the 18-55 and 55-250.
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Old Jun 30, 2011, 10:43 PM   #16
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Where can you buy a Canon 60d with lenses for 950?
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Old Jun 30, 2011, 10:45 PM   #17
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Where could you buy that 60D package for 950?
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Where could you buy that 60D package for 950?
It was on www.bestbuy.com (SKU# 9999158900050013) but they have since removed it. Apparently, it was a mistake as it has been replaced online by (SKU# 9999158900050014) the same package at a higher price ($1300).

I kick myself for missing it. Now debating between the D5100 or the D90. I like the controls of D90, but can't see paying same price as D5100 for an older camera...since I'm beginner, I may just go with D3100, learn from it, then get a superior camera in a couple of years...
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If you were looking at the canon 60D the new 600 might also be an option. Has the same superb swivel screen.
For chasing kids I would take the Canon 18-200 mm IS lens. Changing lenses when chasing kids is a burden. You will miss the moment.
If the package is to expensive I would buy the canon 18-200 lens and the cheapest body. Sell the body If you saved some and know what you want.

What looks natural indoors has nothing to do with using a flash or not. A good flash with tricks like diffuser and bounce flash through a ceiling or wall (or both combined) might look more natural than just natural light in some circumstances. And sometimes with moving subjects there just is no alternative for flash.
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